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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Well as Glasgow spur said its a whole mix of things and at the heart of it, there are too many people getting paid healthy amounts in our public services that basically cant be bothered and there is very little consequence management in our public sector compared to private sector. Public sector staff move up the pay ladder every year until they hit the top of their band regardless of performance.

For sure.

But we need to be clear. No police force has ever claimed they shyed away due to worries about racism. It's unnamed social workers who said their managers told them not to focus on ethnicity.

This has been peddled endlessly by the far right and I've been asking for ecidence of it for years and not seen it.

Remember this issue impacts me and my family. The hatred of Pakistani men is being emboldened.

Hence why I push people to back up claims.
 
For sure.

But we need to be clear. No police force has ever claimed they shyed away due to worries about racism. It's unnamed social workers who said their managers told them not to focus on ethnicity.

This has been peddled endlessly by the far right and I've been asking for ecidence of it for years and not seen it.

Remember this issue impacts me and my family. The hatred of Pakistani men is being emboldened.

Hence why I push people to back up claims.
But thats what im trying to say, these faceless wastes of space saying "we didn't do our jobs properly because we were scared of being racist" is creating racism because if all of these guys got locked up years ago like they should have been there wouldn't have been an issue and nobody would have talked about it.
 
I don’t normally post in here but I’m shocked that they have voted in a bill to allow abortion up to full term.
I’m not against abortion and 24 weeks is one of the later limits in the world prior to today. Allowing up to full term crosses some moral boundary’s in my view. You gov polled at 1% of people polled agreed with it.

On top of that the assisted suicide bill looks like a brick show from the stuff I’m seeing and reading.

Tories were bad but this Labour mob are a brick show of the highest order. Anti human.

There’s not one party i would give a vote to. The politicians in this country are a joke. Full of clueless student activists , anti human loonies , elite snobs. Very few decent ones.
 
I don’t normally post in here but I’m shocked that they have voted in a bill to allow abortion up to full term.
I’m not against abortion and 24 weeks is one of the later limits in the world prior to today. Allowing up to full term crosses some moral boundary’s in my view. You gov polled at 1% of people polled agreed with it.

On top of that the assisted suicide bill looks like a brick show from the stuff I’m seeing and reading.

Tories were bad but this Labour mob are a brick show of the highest order. Anti human.

There’s not one party i would give a vote to. The politicians in this country are a joke. Full of clueless student activists , anti human loonies , elite snobs. Very few decent ones.

Sorry, stopped reading at ‘assisted suicide bill.’
 
Having watched a loved one suffer through months of a terminal illness, struggling to breathe and in constant pain, I’m afraid I’m not happy to accept that definition of the bill you reference.
I’ve witnessed that myself recently and I’ve also witnessed some very disturbing stuff around end of life care from our very own NHS system So hence my view of this bill.


Look I see the merit in it I do. It’s just I have no faith in it being administered in a correct manor within the NHS at all times.

Just to add assisted suicide was a poor choice of words. In hindsight
 
That tweet is a slight misrepresentation. It is not decriminalising all abortions, only those induced by the woman herself. There have been instances where women have unknowingly exceeded the 24 week limit when taking pills that induce abortion and have faced criminal charges.
That is what is being changed, and to me that's a good thing.
It does not sanction abortions up to full term when carried out by a clinic/hospital/medical practitioner.
In reality it is unlikely to have a huge impact in terms of number of abortions.
 
I think the assisted dying concept is essential in our times. However the process has to be robust. And I prefer the idea of judges being involved.
That’s the thing how high in the courts does the sign off need to be. Think the judges involvement was removed at a re reading of the bill. Courts are clogged up as it is.

Hence my feeling it’s very murky.
 
That tweet is a slight misrepresentation. It is not decriminalising all abortions, only those induced by the woman herself. There have been instances where women have unknowingly exceeded the 24 week limit when taking pills that induce abortion and have faced criminal charges.
That is what is being changed, and to me that's a good thing.
It does not sanction abortions up to full term when carried out by a clinic/hospital/medical practitioner.
In reality it is unlikely to have a huge impact in terms of number of abortions.
That is clearer. But would it not also take away the punishment in say the case of lady who had a termination at 39 weeks to cover an affair up ?
 
That is clearer. But would it not also take away the punishment in say the case of lady who had a termination at 39 weeks to cover an affair up
Anything much over the 24 weeks and you are going to effectively have a still birth so the woman will likely end up in hospital. It's not really a solution for hiding an affair. I don't know if anything like that has actually happened but if it has I'd confidently wager it's an extreme exception.
 
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