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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Gutter Boy said:
I must have missed that. I only saw a militaristic, religious zealot, federalist, spendthrift. I think the country declined significantly socially and economically, particularly from about 2000/2001
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He went funny. Could only speak in a tilted staccato delivery by the end of his tenure as his brain tried to avoid his mouth tripping over the nonsense he had spouted the day before.

I sold my house when he came in so I missed out massively. Had a terrible time until he went.
 
I see Farage PLC released his manifesto in the Daily Mail and frankly its laughable. Loads of top line sound bites like "Drill baby drill" but again zero detail.

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Grays_1890 said:
I see Farage PLC released his manifesto in the Daily Mail and frankly its laughable. Loads of top line sound bites like "Drill baby drill" but again zero detail.

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Nothing new been released by Reform on economic policy. Unsure why it would be a disaster either, mainly involves increasing tax thresholds, which is the easiest way to putting money in the pockets of the poorest and small businesses whilst boosting economic growth at the bottom end and will end up with the wealthier and large corps shouldering the bulk of the tax burden without making it unattractive to do business here.....
 
Have to say, I'm really fudged off with labour, they are supposed to be making the argument for immigration, not parroting right wing flimflam.

That and their disgusting betrayal of the trans community and they have pretty much lost me already.
 
Baleforce said:
Have to say, I'm really fudged off with labour, they are supposed to be making the argument for immigration, not parroting right wing flimflam.

That and their disgusting betrayal of the trans community and they have pretty much lost me already.
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I am not sure there's been a more chameleon like politician in no. 10 than Starmer.

He's literally gone from pledging to uphold the Corbyn manifesto to effectively cementing himself in history for the "island of strangers" speech....in the space of a few years. Would love to know what this guy actually stands for and why he actually wanted to go into politics.....
 
Baleforce said:
Have to say, I'm really fudged off with labour, they are supposed to be making the argument for immigration, not parroting right wing flimflam.

That and their disgusting betrayal of the trans community and they have pretty much lost me already.
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They are meant to represent the working class british.

Or are you being sarcastic?
 
Lilbaz said:
They are meant to represent the working class british.

Or are you being sarcastic?
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Something that is increasingly lost on labour voters/members in affluent metropolitan areas. For example, Labour were traditionally anti-EU and were for decades:
- They saw the removal of legislative powers and control over economic levers as a watering down of the power of protest and the vote from ordinary working people and the economic treaties, including prohibitions/limitations on state aid and investment as a consolidation of neoliberalism and free market capitalism.
 
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