Guess the question is
- Is this Ange's statement win so far?
3-0 at United for any Spurs manager is a result, completely overrunning them, outplaying them.
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Guess the question is
- Is this Ange's statement win so far?
3-0 at United for any Spurs manager is a result, completely overrunning them, outplaying them.
Robbo
Paul Walsh
I believe only Arse do statement wins. And draws. Also the occational statement loss.
But yeah, that was an impressive performance, which - combined with recent results - should put the start of season criticism to rest. We've responded really well to the derby loss and shown proper character.
What I particularily like is our squad depth and how it's used - we have quality on the bench, players who come on and make a difference. Even the youngest ones play their part.
Granted it was a poor United, but they're supposed to be our rivals, and we dominated them at Old Trafford. That performance builds my hope and anticiaption for the remainder of the season.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
To play in this system as a full back you essentially have to be a competent central midfielder (in skillset at least). Reguilon has never showed that imo.
All the players you list are showing themselves to be important players for us right here, right now, as we're at least starting to put a good run of results together. Ange must be doing something right.
Getting consistency out of good players is one of the most difficult things for a manager to do imo. Many reasons for that. Takes time if it happens. Part of that is sticking with, trusting and believing in players also when not playing at their best imo.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Certainly up there.
Another "statement" results for me will be when/if we start creating more chances even if teams sit back and defend more passively against us.
This performance we knew we were capable of. Consistently breaking down bus parking teams with a good frequency is still an unknown.
Games like this will not encourage teams to come out and be aggressive or attack against us, so we'll get plenty of chances to test ourselves against teams sitting back and being cautious.
Mr Gogolak
Noé Pamarot
It's a great result and performance but Mourinho won 6-1 there and he was sacked 16 months later, I believe. Results and performance have been picking up and long may it continue but there's no such thing as a statement win in modern football, I'm afraid.
DeanoAustin
Jimmy McCormick
I thought we were sensational first half in all but goals. Similar to the Leicester game in many respects but even better. United were absolutely atrocious but much of that was down to how well we played. However...
The way United played really suited us. As good as yesterday was, it doesn't dispel any of the misgivings I have about Ange because United were dumb in how they approached the game and even dumber in how they executed whatever plan ETH had. That doesn't negate how good we were but we'll have much sterner tests and they will define how successful Ange can be here.
Grays_1890
Chris Jones
Nice that we have bounced 4 results out and hopefully sets us up for a run, nice to know the players are still taking the managers messages on board
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
I said in the OMT it was the best performance of Angela’s time here.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Nice to see the plan executed
Key was every player knew their role and did it
No issues with players smothering others and all players showed the right level of accountability
Bishop
John Lacy
That group outside of Skipp and Winks who were actually youth players so no Diet or Sarr have probably played a grand total of less than 10 matches for us. So it's not an exaggeration to say we haven't either been willing to or able to give our youth a try.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
I believe only Arse do statement wins. And draws. Also the occational statement loss.
I find the pointless negativity that prompted my reply the issue. We are not (bar a period with Conte) a team who has shunned the idea of blooding youngsters, the truth is that the players have not really measured up which is probably the same across all top clubs.
I also find the idea that youngsters we've signed and then nurtured via a slightly different route - Alli, Dier, Sarr, Udogie, are not to be considered a but odd - they are to be considered they were spotted by our recruitment team and the price paid for them reflected the age and development those players needed - the same as an 8 year old Harry Winks who progresses through the ranks is a valid consideration.
Footnote - your numbers are off.
Bentaleb - 46 games
Tanganga - 27 games
Onomah - 13 games
Walker Peters - 12 games
That's 98 games just there.
Bishop
John Lacy
Well I'm not including players bought from elsewhere because someone else has already done the blooding. Someone else has already taken the risk. Buying someone at that point is really taking a chance on youth imo. It's buying a player like any other they just a bit younger. Blooding youth is actually playing players from your youth system, the likes of Skipp or Winks or Moore today.
Fair enough on the number of games played, i wasn't being exact. I wasn't expecting you to actually count how many games they had really played.
The premier league is the richest in the world and competitive. Managers are judged game by game. It's difficult to blood a youngster if you have the finances to buy a ready made player.
Conte said it. It's not his job to develop players. Which is good for him. Not for the club.
It's a balancing act. Would help if we had other clubs we own where we can force it. We rely on loaning out and youth competitions though. Which is not ideal.
Conte said it. It's not his job to develop players. Which is good for him. Not for the club.
It's a balancing act. Would help if we had other clubs we own where we can force it. We rely on loaning out and youth competitions though. Which is not ideal.
Mikey10
Jimmy Neighbour
He’s doing well. Has tweaked the formation in a way I didn’t think he would and has used the players at his disposal pretty well the last four games. I still think we are defensively vulnerable (Quarabag could have had a hatful) but plenty to be pleased with at present.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Agreed.
But the arsenal performance wasn’t that long ago, and with absolutely no respect to recent opponents, Coventry, Qarabag and United are all complete gash.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
We did have 10 men
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Number of reasons I’d say
Without son we had a player stay wide which stretched the pitch
We passed better than previous games
We have players match fit and confident
Son hasn’t looked anything like the latter for some time