I think today showed we lacked the mentality Poch talks about. Not from one but the whole team. its pointless singling out Poch or Paulinho etc, we simply didn't have the quality and personality to sweep aside a decent prem team fighting for their lives. We are at the right level but we don't accept it as we need to be top 4.
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SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Still probably our best player imo, even with Kane. Thought Eriksen should have been moved from the right, he wasn't in the game first half. Second he was moving off the wing, coming deeper to get moves going. Frustrating game. In hindsight, Soldado, Dembele, Townsend may have been worth playing.
GrimsbyYid
Gus Poyet
Poch gets it wrong shocker....
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
At least you're admitting it's in hindsight...
Soldado? Dembele? Townsend? Hardly obvious starters any of them.
More like fans blaming the head coach when they didn't get the result they wanted regardless of what happened. It's pretty standard and happens exactly always when we don't win.
GrimsbyYid
Gus Poyet
Nope. Look at the porch thread, even when we were getting results (thanks to Kane, eeriness and Lloris) I thought POchs many failings were clear to see. Days like today just highlight them and make people see when they;re not blinded by results.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
I think where we would have normally kicked on - around 60 mins as the game opened up - the international duties possibly showed. If I was being positive, that is a success, we have a clean sheet away, and under 'normal service' you could argue we'd have got a goal. A point at the end of the day. Disappointing but it might be crucial on the last day of the season.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Shows the lack of effective width. We needed to lay the ball off into the channels and get in behind. I think Walker was supposed to offer that on the overlap. And he did maybe twice first half. I thought Eriksen and Chadli could have been switched to give the Dane a run at the left wing. We pretty much have Townsend or nothing as a traditional winger to stretch the game.
metalgear
Luka Modric
makes it even more intriguing doesn't it if poch can do that thing he does with southampton - a bunch of lesser players.
avb didn't get the players he wanted, why should poch?
we buy by committee ... didn't you get the memo?
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
AVB didn't get some of the top class players he wanted. He also got plenty of players he did want.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
not sure about that, we have 1 or 2 exceptional players yes but most of our squad is vastly overrated imo
shaney
Alan Hutton
Agreed. Whats more baffling is the blinded logic that "everything will get better when Poch gets the players he wants". Anyone thinking we are going to ship out 10 players and get 8 ones we want in the close season is living in dreamland. At least 5 of the "crud" players we all love to hate are going to be here next season. Is Poch getting the best out of these players this year ? Will he get the best out of these failing players next year ? Well, I will let the board answer that one.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
I think today you have to take into account a few things. 1. We have been woeful in defence. This needed addressing. To be fair it was addressed and with a makeshift defence. We didn't defend that well all game, but the vital stat is 0 goals conceded. Did Poch look to address the serious issue of conceding too many goals? Yes. And we left with a point. How many other games this season have we given up a point to leave with nothing? The pool game springs to mind.
2. Post international games and 3. a hard place to travel to.
Was the performance any good? No. But we left with a point. Onwards now.
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I think our best performances this season out number the best performances under Sherwood and have been of a better standard. Our poor performances under Sherwood out number and were of a lower standard than the worst we have been this season.
Howevere we have had plenty of average/frustrating performances this season - which probably amounts to more than under Sherwood but simply looking at our top and bottom end performances there's a clear improvement, IMV.
THFC6061
Paul Robinson
I really would like to agree with you, but the fact remains Spurs won 1.91 points per game under Sherwood compared to 1.74 points per game under Pochettino.
Over an entire season, that's the difference between 73 points against 66 points.
Where's the improvement?
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indianspur
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I think until your dying day you will believe that Tim Sherwood was the greatest manager Spurs ever had
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
You are quite right. Sherwood's record against the lesser sides was great. He failed against the better sides because the defence were almost always all injured or carried on in chronic form under him. He did get us playing though. Ultimately, he was his own worst enemy was himself and he had to go.
Kane was so isolated today he would certainly have benefitted from a partner up front and a midfield that used width to get in behind a packed defence. We still haven't mastered 4231 if that was what we were supposed to be playing. I for one couldn't work out our formation today. Anyone else? Where was Pauli and Eriksen playing for example?
King of Norway
Gudni Bergsson
I never understand why Poch seems to want to use Eriksen on the right. In the beginning of the season, that was clearly his idea, but then he left it behind as it wasn't working at all. Now and then he still plays there though. I am sure he has some clever idea, but I just can't see it at all why Poch thinks he should play there. Sometimes it would have been extremely interesting to hear a manager talk about his tactical decisions rather than the uninteresting cliches we are served in every interview. And that is something the reporters should be better at too. Try to get managers to talk about something interesting for a change.
Why are we blaming international duties? Did all the teams who won yesterday have non-international players?
For me this was another game in a worryingly trend of games that show that we simply do not have the quality in our squad despite spending a small fortune 2 years ago. Something has to happen this summer, something special , otherwise you have to wonder why you'd want to spend time and money following this club! At least in years gone by you'd feel entertained, today's performance brought back horrible memories of AVB and the unbalanced squad we amassed at that time that we are still suffering with!!
For me this was another game in a worryingly trend of games that show that we simply do not have the quality in our squad despite spending a small fortune 2 years ago. Something has to happen this summer, something special , otherwise you have to wonder why you'd want to spend time and money following this club! At least in years gone by you'd feel entertained, today's performance brought back horrible memories of AVB and the unbalanced squad we amassed at that time that we are still suffering with!!