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Tottenham Hotspur v Wigan Athletic Match History 2005-2013 & OMT

Chill fellas, it happens....

Spurs v Man Utd this year.

Man Utd 2 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur
Tottenham Hotspur 1 - 1 Man Utd.
 
BrainOfLevy said:
But if Wigan took one of their numerous chances at City they may have taken some points off of them...their performance shows they are a good team that can cause more expensively assembled teams serious problems, especially at this stage of the season.

The argument that 'if we really want to be top 4 we should be beating Wigan away' is just ludicrous. It's like Man United saying 'if we really want to be title challengers we need to beat them away' yet even they can fall to them when they should have been at maximum focus. This was my second hardest game after Chelsea away in my predictions, so I'm pretty happy with a point. If we managed to score right at the end there, I would have been fudging overjoyed.
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thats not my argument, i'm saying that if we have superior players to another team and are mentally and tactically prepared correctly we will win
 
ArnieArdiles said:
Yes they did.

They can play a good game but when you're gifted the start we had, to not take all three points is got to be seen as an opportunity missed , certainly by a team with top four aspirations.
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Exactly and I think this seems to be what people are missing. Wigan may be a difficult team to play at this stage of the season (though some people go on about them like they're Real Madrid) but they gave us the gift of the season after 10 minutes. It meant, had we been able to hold on, they would have had to come out and attack us, while stewing with the thought of the stupidity of the error they had just done. Instead, 44 seconds later, they were level.

Once we allowed them to go ahead, it allowed them to sit back as they wish and hit us on the counter. Which they did superbly.

Huge huge opportunity missed today. Personally, I think we now need to beat Chelsea to finish in the top 4. Fixture pile up or not, this will be incredibly difficult.
 
mudshark said:
We played far too narrowly for most of the game. Seemed to do absolutely nothing for the bulk of the second half but play it in ever-tightening circles until we were pressed into making an error. IMO, we should be thankful for the undeserved point. Two flukey goals, and we were lucky to get that much. The Arse still have to play these as well; let's see how they fare.*



* rhetorical.
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Arse will do away with them with ease I'm afraid. You can quote me on that. Why did we play so narrow when we are so much better when we get around quickly on the flanks? Our ability to brain ourselves though the middle went away with Modric, and even with him it was shady at best. We play so much better with Lennon on. Defoe play much better with Lennon on. Given he was unfit, but then again we've already had a natural wide player on the pitch for 75 minutes, roaming around aimlessly in some sort of free role. It was kind of telling for me when Bale chose to take on THREE players to get to the middle rather than playing Walker on the right. Blessing, curse und so weiter. (Disclaimer: I love Bale and hope he stays with us for his entire career)
 
Does a team that loses at home to Wigan and Fulham as well as draw to Norwich ,WBA and Stoke really deserve Champions league football though? i mean what top team that has CL aspirations messes up against weaker teams at home 5 TIMES?
 
Kingdawson said:
Does a team that loses at home to Wigan and Fulham as well as draw to Norwich ,WBA and Stoke really deserve Champions league football though? i mean what top team that has CL aspirations messes up against weaker teams at home 5 TIMES?
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If that same team finishes above 16 others then I would say yes.

Especially if that team beats Man Utd, Emirates Marketing Project, Arsenal, Liverpool over the course of the season.
 
diego_maradona said:
If that same team finishes above 16 others then I would say yes.

Especially if that team beats Man Utd, Emirates Marketing Project, Arsenal, Liverpool over the course of the season.
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pretty much this - it doesn't matter how the points you accumulated over the season were gained, just that you gain them
 
Kingdawson said:
Does a team that loses at home to Wigan and Fulham as well as draw to Norwich ,WBA and Stoke really deserve Champions league football though? i mean what top team that has CL aspirations messes up against weaker teams at home 5 TIMES?
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Can people please stop all this focusing-on-specfic-games-to-support-one-side-of-an-argument gonads? The team that deserves Champions League football is the one who finishes with the most points at the end of the season, regardless of who those points have or haven't come against.

Yes we've slipped up against lower teams, but we've also beaten United, City and Arsenal, and if we beat Chelsea too, we've got a pretty good fudging chance of finishing 4th.

EDIT: Beat me to it Diego.
 
indianspur said:
Wigan's record against the top 5 this season

W-1
D-1
L-7

4 points from Spurs and sweet fcuk all from the rest........
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They do seem to have become a bit of a bogey side for us ever since the 9-1 game.

ManU batter them 4-0 home and 4-0 away, Chavski beat them 4-1 and 2-0, Emirates Marketing Project beat them 2-0 and 1-0, ARSEnal have beaten them 1-0 away... fingers crossed Wigan can do us a favour next month...
 
SteveAWOL said:
They do seem to have become a bit of a bogey side for us ever since the 9-1 game.

ManU batter them 4-0 home and 4-0 away, Chavski beat them 4-1 and 2-0, Emirates Marketing Project beat them 2-0 and 1-0, ARSEnal have beaten them 1-0 away... fingers crossed Wigan can do us a favour next month...
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I suppose motivating them should be easy enough. Martinez walks in changing room with a Tv and video... "REMEMBER THIS?" ...*walks away
 
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