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*****Tottenham Hotspur v Leicester ***OMT
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DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Well, let's agree to disagree on that. Last season, I felt the questioning of Eriksen was unfair - he *gave* his all in every game, he tried, and I could see that. I defended him for it.
He hasn't shown that after the most recent international break. And that disappoints me. Deeply so. I don't care if he plays like sh*te, if he gives a crap while doing it - but I can't see it happening on the field.
Same goes for Alli, incidentally. In some of his more sh*te games this season, I've defended him because he looked like he was trying - he didn't constantly try the same trick, or stroll around, or get outmuscled by a player smaller than him, or make a perfunctory attempt at closing down. He tried, hard. He hasn't been doing that consistently in the league after the Madrid game, not by a long shot.
Laugh now, but mark my words folks. Poch is on borrowed time.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Imagine if we didn’t win that game and still lost this one? Straight after the Arsenal loss. He was praised for decisive management in doing what he did then.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Vital statement that night. International CL outreach might equal big sponsors, more money, etc, etc...
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Unless there has been a giant scandal behind the scenes, unless you know of some serious unrest none of us do, I doubt that very, very much.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
So far? Every one after the international break. Every one. Not just poor, *awful*. He was and is a different player to the one that went off to play Ireland at the start of the month.
Not wanting him dropped would be unfair to Lamela, particularly if he has more impactful cameos like this over the coming month. If Lamela consistently produces from off the bench while Eriksen continues to look like a League 2 player, then it would be extremely cruel on Erik to keep him benched so Eriksen can play his way back into form - which won't happen if he doesn't give a crap about it.
Grr. So f*cking frustrating. And this lot will turn it on in the CL knockout round, I guarantee it - they'll look like they care again, and look like the players we know they can be. That's the frustrating part.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
If Levy does that, he's even more of an utter fool than I sometimes portray him as being.
Losing Poch would be the biggest mistake we make for the next 50 years. No way Levy doesn't know that. Whatever our form - unless we get relegated, Poch stays.
AjaxDeSuperYids
Drama queen
Hopefully some people here will begin to understand that you cannot just constantly use the same players. This is not going around your mates and choosing Spurs on Fifa or pro evo, as you play each of your friends choosing the same best players with the highest stats.
These players are people who get tired and where form dips. For example Dier who has played every game for us and England this season, Eriksen who has played nearly as many and Dele who yet again just constantly loses the ball.
It was so clear the three of them should have been left out today and I put my team up showing that and one guy says that if Poch chose that team he should be fined and loads of people liked that comment - again this isn't Fifa with your mates this is real life.
And as it's real life we will have to deal with reality and drop the three of them for Watford. Hopefully after tonight, such a thought won't seem so hilarious to some of you.
These players are people who get tired and where form dips. For example Dier who has played every game for us and England this season, Eriksen who has played nearly as many and Dele who yet again just constantly loses the ball.
It was so clear the three of them should have been left out today and I put my team up showing that and one guy says that if Poch chose that team he should be fined and loads of people liked that comment - again this isn't Fifa with your mates this is real life.
And as it's real life we will have to deal with reality and drop the three of them for Watford. Hopefully after tonight, such a thought won't seem so hilarious to some of you.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
So rather than a player going through a patch of dodgy form (and in Eriksen’s case, maybe needing a rest) it’s an attitude problem? How so? I don’t see bad attitude from either of them. Things not working; sure. Bad games sometimes, sure. But not bad attitude.
Decline? That’s a tad dramatic. It’s hardly a decline when we are - more or less - where we were last season at this stage, points-wise, but also topping our CL group, in or around top 4 (although granted disappointing to have dropped out) and not yet half way through the season. I’d say that is something Levy can probably live with.
DeleHarry
Jose Dominguez
Can't blame these results on not resting players against Dortmund
DeleHarry
Jose Dominguez
Poch won't drop them
He has a core he believes in and will play them no matter what.......he also chooses to drop/rotate others very easily
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Hmm...the first few post match quotes from Poch and he’s actually being harsher on the players than I thought he would. I expected him to try and excuse the display to some extent and cite pressure, increases expectations etc. But he hasn’t. He’s called them out for not fighting.
So maybe there is something there about players thinking they’ve made it. In which case, I quite like us having a bad run (I. A way). Because it shows the players that they haven’t made it like they think they have. If they all think they are 200k a week players and too good for spurs now, this is a bit of a reality check. Don’t lose what got you hear in the first place.
So maybe there is something there about players thinking they’ve made it. In which case, I quite like us having a bad run (I. A way). Because it shows the players that they haven’t made it like they think they have. If they all think they are 200k a week players and too good for spurs now, this is a bit of a reality check. Don’t lose what got you hear in the first place.
awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
The below is basically my summary of the West Brom game. I've underlined the bits that aren't relevant to tonight's game.
We battered them for 75 of the 90 minutes. Didn't concede a corner and of the two shots they had, one both went in.
Eriksen should never have come out for the second first half, he was clearly not in the right mind to be playing.
Kane needs to remember that its a team game. Alli and Son occasionally get caught in possession trying to do too much but Kane rarely ever looks for a killer pass.
Sanchez might have been fine today to blame for letting Rondon get that shot off but he really didn't do much wrong. Alli was more to blame.
The Wembley crowd is flat against these smaller teams however despite this we rained shots and pressure on them. Trippier must have delivered 15 crosses that game, most of them into decent areas.
Davies looks like he's ready to hand that starting shirt over to Rose as soon as google head finishes losing weight. Well. Rose has a worse cross than Walker when he was with us. He's still a good defender but we need a wing back who can cross.
Dembele, Lorente were good subs and for once Poch brought them on early enough.
Spreading the ball out wide is our best bet against locked defences. 8 9 out of 10 games like that we will win. Our balls into the box with Rose and Aurier were simply not good enough. I think it was AVB who told Rose to cross them along the ground which he actually did quite well.
Don't lose faith yet guys we were easily the better team and players coming back like Lamela, Rose and Wanyama will give us a boost over Xmas. Lamela and Wanyama will be a well needed boost for us. Stay positive!
We battered them for 75 of the 90 minutes. Didn't concede a corner and of the two shots they had, one both went in.
Eriksen should never have come out for the second first half, he was clearly not in the right mind to be playing.
Kane needs to remember that its a team game. Alli and Son occasionally get caught in possession trying to do too much but Kane rarely ever looks for a killer pass.
Sanchez might have been fine today to blame for letting Rondon get that shot off but he really didn't do much wrong. Alli was more to blame.
The Wembley crowd is flat against these smaller teams however despite this we rained shots and pressure on them. Trippier must have delivered 15 crosses that game, most of them into decent areas.
Davies looks like he's ready to hand that starting shirt over to Rose as soon as google head finishes losing weight. Well. Rose has a worse cross than Walker when he was with us. He's still a good defender but we need a wing back who can cross.
Dembele, Lorente were good subs and for once Poch brought them on early enough.
Spreading the ball out wide is our best bet against locked defences. 8 9 out of 10 games like that we will win. Our balls into the box with Rose and Aurier were simply not good enough. I think it was AVB who told Rose to cross them along the ground which he actually did quite well.
Don't lose faith yet guys we were easily the better team and players coming back like Lamela, Rose and Wanyama will give us a boost over Xmas. Lamela and Wanyama will be a well needed boost for us. Stay positive!
Legohamster
Ian Walker
I think it played a part
Kane’s not 100 percent, not sure Alli is either.
Played against Arsenal/Dortmund (dead game)/ WBA and tonight.
Could have given them the week off.
I’m sure they will all play in the CL next week as well
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
The chance of losing is always there. Did not resting players against Dortmund make it more or less likely that we would drop points against WBA and Leicester? Quite clearly more likely imo.
You say we had no options. We clearly had that option.
We made the statement. Didn't help us one bit going into the WBA and Leicester games.
We're in a battle for another CL qualification. What's the cost of failing at that? Etc, etc indeed.
I can see arguments for taking Pochettino's approach. Try to get the good feeling back, ride the confidence through the exhaustion in the games to follow. It was a gamble that didn't work though.
For me resting players against Dortmund would have been as much of a statement. We're not in the CL to have a "big night" at Signal Iduna against an off form Dortmund in a mostly pointless game.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Why not exactly?
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
xG is awful, and I don't care who knows it.
Poch has basically admitted that we played like absolute t*rds in the first half. And, second half, those two in particular *still* looked woeful as everyone else (even the triple-marked Kane) stepped up to varying degrees. There's a reason for that, and it isn't because Vicente Iborra and Wilfried Ndidi are suddenly world-class defensive midfielders.
Poch has basically admitted that we played like absolute t*rds in the first half. And, second half, those two in particular *still* looked woeful as everyone else (even the triple-marked Kane) stepped up to varying degrees. There's a reason for that, and it isn't because Vicente Iborra and Wilfried Ndidi are suddenly world-class defensive midfielders.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
How is that not well described as poor form?