Tim Sherwood…gone \o/

[Millsy_Yiddo]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

The problem is that English players, and therefore coaches a decade later, are less well educated than a lot of international players. Listen to Brad Friedel or Tim Howard speak compared with your average knuckle-scraping chavy England player and wonder why we don't produce capable coaches. Or just the inane drivel that ex-player pundits come out with. How many English coaches have sports psychology/science or other degrees? Mourinho, Pellegrini and Wenger all do. Even Iain Dowie (Irish) does.

In the FA report last week, one thing that wasn't highlighted was the figure that Spain have more than 10 times the number of qualified coaches working at grass roots than we do (and a smaller population).

Until we get our coaches as well qualified and capable as the international competition, it's always going to be a handicap to have an English coach. Hodgson, Mclaren, Adkins, McDemott, Clough are currently the top English managers (Pulis being Welsh of course) - it's hardly an enticing field.

Also, anyone that knows anything about our club knows internationalism is in our heritage. Ossie and Ricky and the ticker tape (first major overseas signings in the country). Klinsmannia. Blimey, the club was even founded by Scots (students from St John's Scottish Presbyterian school).

He played for Northern Ireland but he wasn't born here. He's English.

 

[scaramanga]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

I think that it was just a joke. I don't think that he is seriously suggesting for one minute that is the reason he is leaving.

But it does show an underlying opinion that English managerial jobs should be given to English managers (or that it's wrong not to).

Otherwise why mention it at all? Why not because he has dark hair? Or because he has no managerial experience <----- Actually I can see why Timmeh didn't use that one!

 

[indianspur]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

No English manager has ever won the EPL.

Kenny Dalglish in 1994/5 was the only EPL winning manager with prior experience of managing (or playing) in England.

no non european had won it until yesterday......sh!t can happen............. Eddie Howes blue and white army!!

 

[Seedy Ron]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Imagine the meltdown if he was to stay another season :lol:

Imagine all the empty seats at the Lane, plenty yesterday.

But please reopen so I can post my little mate once he is gone. :lol:

Every 5 minutes

I found the fact Tim launched into his "Tim's win percentage/I'm the best" speech immediately, even though it didn't really follow from the question, more irritating than the "Nah, he's English" bit, which as Milo says was probably just his mouth outpacing his brain, not for the first time.

 

[Cotswold]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

I'm afraid to say he's demonstrated very little class.
He knew what he was getting involved in. When he was appointed I didn't speak to anyone who thought he'd be the manager next season unless it was a remarkable success.
He is that dangerous mix of naivety, vanity and inexperience.
if he'd had any sense and he'd been looking at the long game, he'd have accepted that a bigger name was inevitably going to come in and tried to play it so he slipped into the number 2 role to get some real experience.
As it is, i think he'll be sacked by the end of this week and then be appointed at a top half Championship club or a bottom half premiership club. Who knows which way it'll go then?

 

[Robbo]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

So...before he's gone, what are the positives from Timmeh's tenure as Spurs manager? (now that his negatives have been discussed in detail for quite some pages)

- He reintroduced Ade into the team, who went on to score 14 goals in 25 games.
- He improved our offensive play somewhat, at times making us look like we are actually capable of scoring goals.
- He showed faith in youngsters, giving Bentaleb and Kane well deserved playing time.
- He delivered, mostly, good results in his games in charge.

Any other?

 

[Cotswold]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Bentaleb was the big plus for me.

 

[scaramanga]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

So...before he's gone, what are the positives from Timmeh's tenure as Spurs manager? (now that his negatives have been discussed in detail for quite some pages)

- He reintroduced Ade into the team, who went on to score 14 goals in 25 games.
- He improved our offensive play somewhat, at times making us look like we are actually capable of scoring goals.
- He showed faith in youngsters, giving Bentaleb and Kane well deserved playing time.
- He delivered, mostly, good results in his games in charge.

Any other?

We are guaranteed to improve our manager this summer.

 

[Dicko]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Any rumours of when he's a goner?

 

[scaramanga]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Any rumours of when he's a gooner?

All his life apparently

 

[clownfoot]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Any rumours of when he's a goner?

Is he not playing in King's testimonial? Can imagine it will be after that

 

[Jordinho]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Is he not playing in King's testimonial? Can imagine it will be after that

Not if he decides to go to the LMA awards dinner instead.

Don't think it will happen until they've done a post season evaluation, hopefully some time this week.

 

[clownfoot]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Yeah, there will be a sit down with Levy I imagine. If rumours are to be believed then there will be very little talking.

Did anyone see his interview with MOTD yesterday when they asked about the fan in his seat being in the running for his job? There was a flash across his face where he was angry but he composed himself to carry on smiling, giving the old 'happy-go-lucky' Tim schtick. Almost broke character at the final hurdle.

I pray he gets another premier league job to keep me entertained

 

[DTA]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Yesterday was the 9th time we had managed to score 3 goals or more in a match under Tim.....a feat that avb could not manage with 18 months in charge.

 

[THFC6061]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Yesterday was the 9th time we had managed to score 3 goals or more in a match under Tim.....a feat that avb could not manage with 18 months in charge.

Shhhh.

The Tim Haterz will be furious!

 

[harr1984]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Yesterday was the 9th time we had managed to score 3 goals or more in a match under Tim.....a feat that avb could not manage with 18 months in charge.

Did we not score 3 goals with AVB in charge?! I'm sure we did, unless Ive misunderstood the stat?

 

[Gutter Boy]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

Yesterday was the 9th time we had managed to score 3 goals or more in a match under Tim.....a feat that avb could not manage with 18 months in charge.

AVB always said 2-0 was the perfect result. No point expending unnecessary energy - better to turn the engine down and start preparing for the next match.

Pros and cons to that approach, but it explains the lack of dead rubber goals despite his strong win ratio.

 

[milo]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

So...before he's gone, what are the positives from Timmeh's tenure as Spurs manager? (now that his negatives have been discussed in detail for quite some pages)

- He reintroduced Ade into the team, who went on to score 14 goals in 25 games.
- He improved our offensive play somewhat, at times making us look like we are actually capable of scoring goals.
- He showed faith in youngsters, giving Bentaleb and Kane well deserved playing time.
- He delivered, mostly, good results in his games in charge.

Any other?

Eriksen's performances under him were a big plus.

 

[Superhudd]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

The problem is that English players, and therefore coaches a decade later, are less well educated than a lot of international players. Listen to Brad Friedel or Tim Howard speak compared with your average knuckle-scraping chavy England player and wonder why we don't produce capable coaches. Or just the inane drivel that ex-player pundits come out with. How many English coaches have sports psychology/science or other degrees? Mourinho, Pellegrini and Wenger all do. Even Iain Dowie (Irish) does.

In the FA report last week, one thing that wasn't highlighted was the figure that Spain have more than 10 times the number of qualified coaches working at grass roots than we do (and a smaller population).

Until we get our coaches as well qualified and capable as the international competition, it's always going to be a handicap to have an English coach. Hodgson, Mclaren, Adkins, McDemott, Clough are currently the top English managers (Pulis being Welsh of course) - it's hardly an enticing field.

Also, anyone that knows anything about our club knows internationalism is in our heritage. Ossie and Ricky and the ticker tape (first major overseas signings in the country). Klinsmannia. Blimey, the club was even founded by Scots (students from St John's Scottish Presbyterian school).

I have no qualms about hiring a foreign coach.. or the best man for the job.

My main point stands, its ridiculous to throw the English coach comment back at Dim Tim, when many of ex pro's and coachs believe it to be true and is a constant message they all use when an Eniglishman or British coach loose there job or a job becomes open. Its just simply point scoring.

 

[scaramanga]

Re: Tim Sherwood…not treated with the respect a headmaster is.

I have no qualms about hiring a foreign coach.. or the best man for the job.

My main point stands, its ridiculous to throw the English coach comment back at Dim Tim, when many of ex pro's and coachs believe it to be true and is a constant message they all use when an Eniglishman or British coach loose there job or a job becomes open. Its just simply point scoring.

Just because everyone else is a dingdong it doesn't make it OK.