I've seen us have many, many, many worse results than that. Since we scored 10 home goals all season c. 2005, I really don't mind losing as long as I'm entertained. I appreciate the compliment though!
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The Official 2017/18 Premier League Thread
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I've seen us have many, many, many worse results than that. Since we scored 10 home goals all season c. 2005, I really don't mind losing as long as I'm entertained. I appreciate the compliment though!
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Neither sterling, but they're England's big hope so get a bye.
I think we need a win against at least one of Liverpool or ManU as they're above us. We also have Chelsea later in the season. We need to catch one of those three. It's tempting to write off Arsenal's chances, but let's play them first.
They have both been fantastic for 95% of the season. They've adjusted and learned from Guardiola superbly. But there are just as many people that underrate England's players as there are that overrate them just because they're English, so I don't blame you for thinking that.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
Good GHod man, that Northern Winter light must be getting to you!!!!! Buy yourself a fudging sunlamp, a massive poster of some Caribbean beach and dump some sand in the living room!!!!
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
This is a key, key analysis. Liverpool played at their maximum. Sans Coutinho they lack intelligence and really only have pace. city were way off-pace today, probably their worst performance of the season (in fact just like we were at Eastlands!) yet the game still swung on two big fat gifts handed to Liverpool. Even then, even amidst a poor performance by standard, City still nearly snuck a draw.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
smash the filth, beat manure and get a draw at the dippers. I believe. so should you mate!!!
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
I have been saying all along that I think we are underestimating Lollerpool and Klopp. All these are just excuses to justify our view, but the reality is they're a pretty good side capable of what they did today and definitely top 4 material.
Not sure I agree with people's analysis of the game
- City got sucked into Pool's tactics, discipline went out the window and they played this hectic overrun game that Pool is very good at.
- Add in a brick game from Sterling, some questionable keeping and yet Pool was hanging on in the end (if City has scored 5 mins earlier, they would have drawn)
Pool is a known quantity, style, attacking ability and weakness, can they make top 4 = yes, are they a shoe in = no
Honestly feel if we and Cheat$ki play consistently until end of season, Pool is out of top 4, if either slip, Pool has enough firepower to pick up points.
Fact is games like this is where Pool won't miss Coutinho, where they will is against the teams (almost everyone else in league) who will sit deep, soak it up and look to hurt them on counter, those games they will need a little more guile than thump it to a runner with an overcommitted attack. Klopp's Pool is pretty much the same as Rogers, overreliance on an attacking three.
- City got sucked into Pool's tactics, discipline went out the window and they played this hectic overrun game that Pool is very good at.
- Add in a brick game from Sterling, some questionable keeping and yet Pool was hanging on in the end (if City has scored 5 mins earlier, they would have drawn)
Pool is a known quantity, style, attacking ability and weakness, can they make top 4 = yes, are they a shoe in = no
Honestly feel if we and Cheat$ki play consistently until end of season, Pool is out of top 4, if either slip, Pool has enough firepower to pick up points.
Fact is games like this is where Pool won't miss Coutinho, where they will is against the teams (almost everyone else in league) who will sit deep, soak it up and look to hurt them on counter, those games they will need a little more guile than thump it to a runner with an overcommitted attack. Klopp's Pool is pretty much the same as Rogers, overreliance on an attacking three.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
HAVING to score 4 at home to win a game is not the mark of a good side.
I watched the first half, and if City were able to get into first gear as opposed to staying in neutral the game would have been over by HT such was the space Klopps team left to be exploited.
They attack very well, nobody denies that, but that isnt enough.
I watched the first half, and if City were able to get into first gear as opposed to staying in neutral the game would have been over by HT such was the space Klopps team left to be exploited.
They attack very well, nobody denies that, but that isnt enough.
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
For the last 20 seasons, teams finishing above Arsenal would be assured of finishing in top 4 in the league. That won't be the case this season, it seems. We are ahead of Arsenal by 5 points but are still only in 5th place. The emergence of Liverpool as a top 6 team under Klopp will make it a very tight top 4 race this season.
StephenH
David Ginola
Spot on!
The top 6 are tonight are roughly in right order - City are way out in front be cause they are the most consistent.
Man U are hard to to beat. Liverpool bloody good at home. Chelsea are having a strange wobble. We are a little hot and cold and suffer when teams park the bus against us. Arsenal are very strange, average at best. What's puzzling is there no outside reason for thier poor situation, it's totally self inflicted.
StephenH
David Ginola
"Very well" is a little disingenuous. For me they are up there with City going forward but the similarities end there.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Not at all. I think there are classes apart between them and City attacking.
They attack particularly well on the break with a little space, and very well in general. City attack quite brilliantly, its a whole other level.
And thats what Klopps team is based upon, purely outscoring the opposition, Ardilles style. There is no balance to his side, no defence to speak of, its just a mental breakneck rush to score as many as they can because they sure as hell will let some in.
They attack particularly well on the break with a little space, and very well in general. City attack quite brilliantly, its a whole other level.
And thats what Klopps team is based upon, purely outscoring the opposition, Ardilles style. There is no balance to his side, no defence to speak of, its just a mental breakneck rush to score as many as they can because they sure as hell will let some in.
milo
Jack L. Jones
I think Klopp's Liverpool are very one dimensional, even more so now. I think that one of the club's at the lower end of the table will work out how to shut them out and everyone will copy it.
Even if that doesn't happen until next season. I think that they will drop enough silly points for us to catch.
Even if that doesn't happen until next season. I think that they will drop enough silly points for us to catch.
milo
Jack L. Jones
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mudshark
Chris Armstrong
Looking at the fixtures the others have got, I think it's quite likely we'll have consolidated 5th but fallen further behind in the top 4 race by the end of Feb. I think we've been pacing ourselves for the three big games we've got coming up, and I expect that to continue at St Mary's, but if I had to put money on it, my bet would be 4 points out of the 9.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Great example
StephenH
David Ginola
I agree - 5th was my preseason prediction for us and I've seen nothing to change that!
Chelsea though look a little vulnerable and that has surprised me, so you never know.