Rorschach
Sonny Walters
None. It's just made up tosh.
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The new, new manager thread - Pt 3
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None. It's just made up tosh.
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
Does an article need quotes for it to be true?
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Unusually poor standards from the BBC calling Hiddink jobless (when he's got a contract with Holland).
I think journalists really are filling any crap today to try and get out ahead of the bank holiday traffic.
I think journalists really are filling any crap today to try and get out ahead of the bank holiday traffic.
But Rossi is asking what quotes do you require for it to be authentic for you? Journos get inside info from sources, who arent named for obvious reasons. The odds on getting a quote from Levy saying 'Im waiting for Carlo' are pretty slim....
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
why do people want FDB
aside from winning the extremely poor league with the best team in it
a nice detailed break down of why people want FDB would be nice
aside from winning the extremely poor league with the best team in it
a nice detailed break down of why people want FDB would be nice
what makes the Dutch league extremely poor?
there's 4 or 5 competitive teams at the top of the table, i can't think of many leagues which can boast that. Ajax came off the back of a 7 year baron spell to win the most consecutive titles in their history under FdB, whilst selling their star players and relying on home grown talent coming through to replace them - they were far from favorites in two of those seasons at least. It just seems rather naive/ignorant to pass off winning titles in The Netherlands as no big deal - im no expert but you only have to look below the surface to see it's not quite the easy task as it's supposed to be.
there have been times when Ajax were the best side in Europe yet still couldn't dominate like they have done under FdB - at a time when their academy were producing some of the best players in the world
there's 4 or 5 competitive teams at the top of the table, i can't think of many leagues which can boast that. Ajax came off the back of a 7 year baron spell to win the most consecutive titles in their history under FdB, whilst selling their star players and relying on home grown talent coming through to replace them - they were far from favorites in two of those seasons at least. It just seems rather naive/ignorant to pass off winning titles in The Netherlands as no big deal - im no expert but you only have to look below the surface to see it's not quite the easy task as it's supposed to be.
there have been times when Ajax were the best side in Europe yet still couldn't dominate like they have done under FdB - at a time when their academy were producing some of the best players in the world
milo
Jack L. Jones
It's been covered a fair bit in this thread over the last 24 hours. If you go back a few pages you will find a few posts setting out the strengths and weaknesses that several posters see in him.
Reggie_Mentalist
Jamie Redknapp
Pochettino snubs Spurs! Tottenham rejected as Southampton boss prepares to sign a new deal
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/477768/Pochettino-snubs-Spurs-Tottenham-rejected-as-Southampton-boss-prepares-to-sign-a-new-deal
TOTTENHAM'S hunt for a new manager has been dealt a hammer blow by Mauricio Pochettino who looks set to sign a new deal with Southampton.
Reports claim that Pochettino is ready to end speculation over his Saints future by putting pen to paper on a brand new contract.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/477768/Pochettino-snubs-Spurs-Tottenham-rejected-as-Southampton-boss-prepares-to-sign-a-new-deal
TOTTENHAM'S hunt for a new manager has been dealt a hammer blow by Mauricio Pochettino who looks set to sign a new deal with Southampton.
Reports claim that Pochettino is ready to end speculation over his Saints future by putting pen to paper on a brand new contract.
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
Do you have any proof of that? I'm pretty sure the bookies will have Ajax as big favourites every season and rightly so.
The Dutch league is jank and winning it with Ajax means diddly squat. I mean just look at Chadli, he was one of the best players in Holland, that's the level of the league. What Schteve did with Twente is far more impressive than what de Boer is doing, he's just a lesser qualified AVB.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
I cant find it, at least not the level of insight i am looking for. i have gone as far back as page 19...is it before or aFTER?
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Exclusive - Express work experience intern can copy things off twitter with minimal transcription errors
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
The dutch league is poor. Are you saying otherwise? Are you saying that the dutch league is a strong force to be feared and reckoned with? because their champions walk out on the pitch against 2nd and 3rd and 4th best teams from other countries and those teams think "Shiiiiiiiiiit man, that's AJAX". No , i'm pretty sure that these days when teams see ajax they are pencilling in a good shout for at least a point
There are probably 3 teams that are competitive in a 3rd world country...i wouldnt classify that as being a yard stick measurement of a strong league.
And ajax is the most recognised and most resourceful team in Holland , period. everyone else plays catch up..the reason they sell their star players is because that is their model , they have ALWAYS done that..the dutch league is a league that exports talent significantly more than it imports / purchases it...and the reason they can do this and still maintain their level ? its because that league is poor and all the best young players are cherry picked by the best and most resourceful club in the country
DublinSpur
Scott Parker
But the competitiveness of a league has got nothing to do with the quality of the league. Do you really not see that?
Who is the better manager? The guy who leads Barcelona to title in Spain (in a league with three likely champions - usually two!) Or the guy who leads Ajax to the title in a league where 6 or 7 teams are roughly the same quality?
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
aahhh i think i see why you think its a few pages down
KD actually asked the question and people gave a break down of why they wanted him
unfortunately most of those reasons are down to circumstance and stature of the club he managed and also the model in holland
what i want is a break down of Dubaispurs' first PRO point...
a break down of his style of play and what he actually brings to the pitch and out players....at the end of the day that should be why people want him for a football club no? to get positive results on the pitch
otherwise we might as well go for Steau Bucharest Coach ..(i actually rate him as it happens)
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
that is kind of the point i am trying to make...the competitiveness has not that much significance, not entirely nothing, to do with the leagues quality.
in your experiment it would be the guy that leads the Ajax team , but my thought is that there are not 7 teams of roughly the same stature and pull in the top tier...there are teams getting results on par to one another but Ajax is still ajax and still command as much resources and influence as any other team in that league. The level of media and promotion and TV exposure and marketing that Brand name gets in direct comparison to other teams is almost distorted
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Absolutely because there is no way that Levy, Baldini and co would spill such information. Quotes add credence to any piece of journalism, I'm sure you would agree, and so only the gullible would put any faith in what are in effect opinion pieces by journo's passed off as insider knowledge. Do journo's get some inside knowledge every now and then? Sure they do, but to think that's the case in this instance would be a little naive. Slow news day + Spurs delaying announcing manager appointment = waiting for Ancelloti. Beleive it if you want. I don't.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
No.
africanspurs
Justin Edinburgh
i wouldnt know if they spat in my face and said "Heeeeyyy, yeah i am THE guy!!!""
After having a guy that i considered to be an educated fraud when stacking up his deficiencies in traits that are paramount to being a top coach..i would like to think that we didnt live in a revolving door of naivety and blind following of the media and hype.
Lets level it and get it standardised for once...if people that are 100% sure they want FDB then they should know why,,....and it shouldnt be about winning the league with a poor league's power house of a team...it needs to be something more intricate and identifiable about the man i would hope
like pochettino...you ask the logic man Braineclipse why he wants him...he will give you detailed break down about how pochettino approaches a game and what he brings to the table (and this is based on what he has actually seen several times and observed)...and for that i feel i know more about that coach for it...and i actually started to think "i like the idea of that kind of personality on board"
as AberYid about eriksen..he broke it down and didnt waver once , not even in eriksen's blip in form....
thats what i am talking about..instead of throwing out intangible theories that are themselves derived from other assumptions......just put something down that you might think to yourself.."okay if de boer comes through...we will get THIS THIS And THIS"
actually someone mentioned some detail on page 17 i think i should say ...they mentioned he values pressing, using a high line, etc. something along those lines..would be nice...and reasons as to why ajax look poor in europe this past season would go a long way too