Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
I’ve never rated him particularly highly even when he was getting a regularly game. Definitely think he’s behind Hojbjerg and Bentancur. Haven’t really seen enough of Sarr to judge. Ditto Bissouma.
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The Future Squad
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I’ve never rated him particularly highly even when he was getting a regularly game. Definitely think he’s behind Hojbjerg and Bentancur. Haven’t really seen enough of Sarr to judge. Ditto Bissouma.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
We’re likely going to have to keep all of our association trained players, especially as it’s likely Kane will be leaving.
Its a problem isnt it, especially with the Kane situation you mention, plus Dier not exactly a long-term option, Forster is 34, Sess looking rubbish, Tanganga not good enough etc
I guess you could always go with a squad of 18 NHG players, plus a couple HG players and then kids
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Should look at bringing through some youngsters to play lesser games too
Mulletperm
Mauricio Taricco
Keep 'em all until Poch comes back and see what he can do with a different formation 
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Dier is an overseas player.
spurspinter1
Steve Carr
We are actually just trying to keep ourselves busy at this stage aren't we? May as we make a thread discussing whether top 4 / trophies is more important as if it's more important.
Trying our best as a football club matters, and we can't truly impact that as fans can we, such an odd, helpless position to be in...
Trying our best as a football club matters, and we can't truly impact that as fans can we, such an odd, helpless position to be in...
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I wouldn't mind start next season something like:
--------------------------------Henderson(Lloris)
Spence(Royal)------Romero(Dier)-----Ndicka(Edwards)----Udogie(Regulion)
-----------------------Bentancur(Sarr)--------Bissouma(Skipp)
Kulusevski(Gil)----------------Kudus(Scott)--------------------Mitoma(Son)
-------------------------Richarlison(Cho Gue-sung/Ferguson)
Seven signings, but probably about zero net spend and addressing our homegrown issue too.
--------------------------------Henderson(Lloris)
Spence(Royal)------Romero(Dier)-----Ndicka(Edwards)----Udogie(Regulion)
-----------------------Bentancur(Sarr)--------Bissouma(Skipp)
Kulusevski(Gil)----------------Kudus(Scott)--------------------Mitoma(Son)
-------------------------Richarlison(Cho Gue-sung/Ferguson)
Seven signings, but probably about zero net spend and addressing our homegrown issue too.
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thfcsteff
George Hunt
I absolutely keep Dier, because unlike most here, I see the leadership and bravery he possesses. And until we actually get that player in, we cannot afford to lose him. Sorry, that’s a fact.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
With some exceptions who should go will depend on the manager we have and system we play.
If Conte and Paratici ends up leaving we're quickly back to the chaos we were in two years ago. And probably more need for assessing/reassessing players at the club, that can definitely be a painful experience.
We need to get clarity on Paratici and Conte at some point in the coming months. If Conte is to leave I'd like it to be within the next couple of months to give the new manager a chance to assess the squad before the summer window.
If Conte and Paratici ends up leaving we're quickly back to the chaos we were in two years ago. And probably more need for assessing/reassessing players at the club, that can definitely be a painful experience.
We need to get clarity on Paratici and Conte at some point in the coming months. If Conte is to leave I'd like it to be within the next couple of months to give the new manager a chance to assess the squad before the summer window.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Leadership and bravery? His shaved head and a few snarls have got you fooled I fear mate.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Listen to him being interviewed. The High Performance Podcast one is a good start. He has an awful lot of emotional intelligence (for a footballer). He's a modern kind of leader. Southgate has always had him in his leadership group when he's been in the squad, which is fairly telling.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
We can agree to disagree about his leadership but that’s all wasted as he’s not good enough ability wise.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
LOL…I think you’re guilty of single-dimensional thinking here. I also suspect you know that your own bias against the player is refusing to allow you to acknowledge what I’m talking about.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Don’t waste your time mate. It is not a skill-set given the remotest thrift by many. I remember saying in late Oct that Conte was (IMO) struggling without his consigliari, and again after the passing of Vialli I speculated he might be going through a personal re-evaluation of what is important in life. You’ll also know (and I believe agree) that Poch’s emotional intelligence was a major reason he propelled us as far as he did, and that in the end, it was Levy’s lack of it which cost Poch dearly as much as other factors at the time. It is an underrated value, not just among footballers, but in life. I know I’m preaching to the choir FWIW…
Bishop
John Lacy
That's nice but more importantly you need ability. As a defender you need good awareness, decision making, speed of thought, reactions, strength etc etc. While Dier may have emotional intelligence he lacks in many of the other categories.
It's an imbalance even if we were to accept that he is high in that particular attribute it doesn't outweigh the areas he is weak in and fundamentally the areas of weakness are the most important for a defender, a centre back especially.
We've looked rudder for months, his leadership hasn't been able to get us on course and I'm not expecting that of one player tbh. I think it's weak argument really. The greatest teams have leadership and strong characters throughout their sides couples with extreme quality. It's a pointless attribute without the quality to go with it.
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Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
People wouldn’t keep highlighting his leadership IMO if he had more ability. Or at the very least, they would talk about it less. He says all the right things that fans love to hear “wants his ashes scattered on the pitch” etc but I’d prefer he stops making silly mistakes and defend better. I fear he’ll always be a hard player for us to sell because fans love his “leadership” and the fact that he’s a trier. It’s not something that’s easily proved either as we don’t see what goes in in the dressing room and on the training ground. We can however all see what is happening on the pitch.
