Great post.
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Great post.
Why, just because they are English?
They are highly rated by a lot of experts and journos because they are English. I don't rate them that high because they simple aren't that good. Sturridge is probably the more clinical finisher, while Welbeck runs around a lot. There's definitely better value for money out there, especially considering their ridiculous wage demands.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
I have never really got the big thing about welbeck either but sturridge gets goals in the prem and that is worth something. But as you said the is better value elsewhere especailly when you see what michu has done for swansea and we are not made of money.
I think they are good. VFM wise maybe Sturridge is not for Spurs but these are potential England guys and we need them playing regularly.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I agree with Jordinho.
The strikers that are currently first choice for the clubs that realistically can challenge for the title (Manchester clubs and Chelsea) are Rooney, Van Persie, Aguero, Tevez, Dzeko, Torres etc. And Torres is pretty much seen as not good enough and will most likely be replaced by Falcao or someone like that. Just a completely different class compared to Sturridge and Welbeck.
We already have Ade and Defoe who both seem to fit in well under AVB, if we're going to buy another striker it should be someone with the potential to be real special, not blow £10-15m on someone like Sturridge who is no better than what we have and might actually be quite a bit worse. We could spend that money bringing in a proper 5th choice goalkeeper or something, bare bones and all that.
The strikers that are currently first choice for the clubs that realistically can challenge for the title (Manchester clubs and Chelsea) are Rooney, Van Persie, Aguero, Tevez, Dzeko, Torres etc. And Torres is pretty much seen as not good enough and will most likely be replaced by Falcao or someone like that. Just a completely different class compared to Sturridge and Welbeck.
We already have Ade and Defoe who both seem to fit in well under AVB, if we're going to buy another striker it should be someone with the potential to be real special, not blow £10-15m on someone like Sturridge who is no better than what we have and might actually be quite a bit worse. We could spend that money bringing in a proper 5th choice goalkeeper or something, bare bones and all that.
Well, I couldn't care less about what happens at international level and they will never be first choice for Man Utd or Chelsea as long as they are in the top 4.
metalgear
Luka Modric
the thing is that ade, defoe and dempsey are all players in their prime if not going past it soon. we will need to bed in younger players and for a club that is largerly still challenging for CL places we wouldn't do worse with someone like sturridge. better still if we defoe continues to do well and we are able to offload him for a princely sum at the end of the season.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
That's a bit harsh on Adebayor. I reckon he could still have 5 years left at the very top, considering the type of player he is. Just look at how Drogba's best years were in his early 30s.
I would look to trade Defoe in for a younger model in the summer, but for someone an awful lot better/more promising than Sturridge.
Crawley
Board Legend
A year ago I'd have agreed with that, but after his exploits this year, I doubt very much that will happen. Potentially on this form he could do this for a couple more years as he matures and understands his role better.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
The problem is that Defoe's accleration is likely to vanish any time now - quick little poachers like him rarely hang around long once they hit 30.
With Redknapp at QPR, I think Levy will get an obscene offer he wont turn down, which might even be this next window, let alone the summer.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Got to agree with crawley on this one gutterboy, defoe has added more to his game and has a suprising strength in holding off players and really has the poachers eye for goal.
Although we have a lot of pace in the team avb keeps saying he want a more patient appraoch play so i think maybe even if he lost a bit of pace it would not matter if he could still finish.
But this is levy and if he saw a chance to make back his money he might go for it im convinced he will look to do this with parker, he must be kicking himself he did not go for diame on a free.
Although we have a lot of pace in the team avb keeps saying he want a more patient appraoch play so i think maybe even if he lost a bit of pace it would not matter if he could still finish.
But this is levy and if he saw a chance to make back his money he might go for it im convinced he will look to do this with parker, he must be kicking himself he did not go for diame on a free.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Unless we are buying Falcao, not a chance. And even then, not a chance. Besides, Defoe won't follow Harry anymore...
Andre Villas-Boas has found his feet at Tottenham in the last month and the Spurs manager is ready to test the club's ambition as they prepare for the January transfer window.
Daniel Levy, the Tottenham chairman, considers himself a transfer window specialist. Nothing gets his juices going more than the thrill of a deadline day haggle, the opportunity to strike a deal and get one over rivals’ executives.
Yet his desire for a bargain and tendency to move the goalpoasts has frustrated many of his managers - past and present.
While Villas-Boas publically plays down his ambitions for the January transfer window, he is already putting pressure on Levy in private to secure the signings that will aid Spurs’ push for a top-four finish this season. They currently sit fifth in the Premier League, level on points with fourth-placed Everton.
In fact, Villas-Boas has told his superiors that the club could be challenging for the title had he been delivered his summer targets, which included Leandro Damiao, Joao Moutinho and Hulk.
The collapse of the Moutinho deal on the final day of the transfer window was of particular frustration to Villas-Boas, who had made the playmaker his top target.
The move fell through at the last minute despite Spurs agreeing a £22 million fee with Porto earlier in the day - all after Villas-Boas was told Moutinho would arrive once the Londoners sold Rafael van der Vaart to Hamburg.
The Portuguese is in bullish mood as we approach the New Year and wants to add a creative midfielder and a winger to the squad.
Flexibility is not one of Villas-Boas’ strongest assets, and he is already pushing Levy to strike a January deal for Moutinho, even though he knows such a move is highly unlikely given Porto would demand close to £30m.
The question now is how much Levy is willing to back Villas-Boas in the transfer market, especially while the club attempt to finance the construction of a new £400m stadium.
The truth is that Villas-Boas will not be able to change Levy’s ways. He only needs to ask one of his three predecessors: Harry Redknapp, Juande Ramos or Martin Jol.
And while the day-to-day relationship between chairman and manager is reasonably strong, there are tensions over the club’s transfer strategy, with Villas-Boas feeling misled by promises made when he signed a three-year contract in the summer.
Emmanuel Adebayor was the only one of Spurs' summer signings laid out as a specific target by Villas-Boas. Deals for Jan Vertonghen, Gyfli Sigurdsson, Mousa Dembele, Clint Dempsey and Hugo Lloris were all driven by the chairman.
The likely outcome this time around is that Spurs will try to land their leading targets - the likes of Moutinho, Christian Eriksen and Shakhtar Donetsk star Willian - but Levy will once again refuse to break the bank for one player.
The January transfer window is historically less conducive to negotiating major transfers than the summer. Clubs are reluctant to allow their best players to leave halfway through the season, especially if they are playing in European competition,
Villas-Boas will continue to push Levy - and the manager has made it very clear which players he wants. He does not want to revert to the type of last-minute ‘deals’ like the one that saw Clint Dempsey arrive from Fulham on the last day of August.
It requires a fine balancing act to satisfy your boss while at the same time making sure you have the tools to do you job to the best of your ability. The next two months will tell us much about the future of the Villas-Boas and Levy partnership.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/12/12/3596848/
Daniel Levy, the Tottenham chairman, considers himself a transfer window specialist. Nothing gets his juices going more than the thrill of a deadline day haggle, the opportunity to strike a deal and get one over rivals’ executives.
Yet his desire for a bargain and tendency to move the goalpoasts has frustrated many of his managers - past and present.
While Villas-Boas publically plays down his ambitions for the January transfer window, he is already putting pressure on Levy in private to secure the signings that will aid Spurs’ push for a top-four finish this season. They currently sit fifth in the Premier League, level on points with fourth-placed Everton.
In fact, Villas-Boas has told his superiors that the club could be challenging for the title had he been delivered his summer targets, which included Leandro Damiao, Joao Moutinho and Hulk.
The collapse of the Moutinho deal on the final day of the transfer window was of particular frustration to Villas-Boas, who had made the playmaker his top target.
The move fell through at the last minute despite Spurs agreeing a £22 million fee with Porto earlier in the day - all after Villas-Boas was told Moutinho would arrive once the Londoners sold Rafael van der Vaart to Hamburg.
The Portuguese is in bullish mood as we approach the New Year and wants to add a creative midfielder and a winger to the squad.
Flexibility is not one of Villas-Boas’ strongest assets, and he is already pushing Levy to strike a January deal for Moutinho, even though he knows such a move is highly unlikely given Porto would demand close to £30m.
The question now is how much Levy is willing to back Villas-Boas in the transfer market, especially while the club attempt to finance the construction of a new £400m stadium.
The truth is that Villas-Boas will not be able to change Levy’s ways. He only needs to ask one of his three predecessors: Harry Redknapp, Juande Ramos or Martin Jol.
And while the day-to-day relationship between chairman and manager is reasonably strong, there are tensions over the club’s transfer strategy, with Villas-Boas feeling misled by promises made when he signed a three-year contract in the summer.
Emmanuel Adebayor was the only one of Spurs' summer signings laid out as a specific target by Villas-Boas. Deals for Jan Vertonghen, Gyfli Sigurdsson, Mousa Dembele, Clint Dempsey and Hugo Lloris were all driven by the chairman.
The likely outcome this time around is that Spurs will try to land their leading targets - the likes of Moutinho, Christian Eriksen and Shakhtar Donetsk star Willian - but Levy will once again refuse to break the bank for one player.
The January transfer window is historically less conducive to negotiating major transfers than the summer. Clubs are reluctant to allow their best players to leave halfway through the season, especially if they are playing in European competition,
Villas-Boas will continue to push Levy - and the manager has made it very clear which players he wants. He does not want to revert to the type of last-minute ‘deals’ like the one that saw Clint Dempsey arrive from Fulham on the last day of August.
It requires a fine balancing act to satisfy your boss while at the same time making sure you have the tools to do you job to the best of your ability. The next two months will tell us much about the future of the Villas-Boas and Levy partnership.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/12/12/3596848/
SPURS’ pursuit of Ajax starlet Christian Eriksen has taken another extraordinary twist.
The north London outfit have been tracking Eriksen for quite a while, but their chances of landing the midfielder in January could be scuppered.
The 20-year-old Danish star has been attracting interest from a host of top European clubs, and Spurs have a battle on their hands to capture his signature.
More significantly, it was Eriksen’s comments about the allure of playing for Barcelona or in Italy that could be cause for concern for Spurs fans.
Eriksen is quoted on Italian football site forzaitaliafootball.com, as saying: “Who wouldn’t dream about playing in Barcelona? I think my future will be in Spain, England, Italy, or Germany.
"I enjoy these championships, and I want to see what chances they have to offer me“.
:ross:
The north London outfit have been tracking Eriksen for quite a while, but their chances of landing the midfielder in January could be scuppered.
The 20-year-old Danish star has been attracting interest from a host of top European clubs, and Spurs have a battle on their hands to capture his signature.
More significantly, it was Eriksen’s comments about the allure of playing for Barcelona or in Italy that could be cause for concern for Spurs fans.
Eriksen is quoted on Italian football site forzaitaliafootball.com, as saying: “Who wouldn’t dream about playing in Barcelona? I think my future will be in Spain, England, Italy, or Germany.
"I enjoy these championships, and I want to see what chances they have to offer me“.
:ross:
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
More truth in that article than you will find in the next 2 months of ITK I reckon.
