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Sandro - Beast
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Gudni Bergsson
On Sandro, the tortured logic of some of the criticism of Sherwood really is glaring.
In other threads, Sherwood is being laughed at for his "guts and passion" schtick.
And yet in this thread, he's being crucified for dropping the most "guts and passion" player we have - Sandro.
Those two things are completely contradictory. You can't think both that Sherwood is about nothing but "guts and passion", and at the same time that he's wrong to drop our most "guts and passion" player.
Similarly, you can't criticise Sherwood for wanting to play neanderthal football when he consistently favours offensive players over defensive ones. In fact, what we're seeing is Spurs fans who are more conservative and defensively minded than our coach. You lot want DM's, protection and a platform against Sunderland and Fulham at home, while our coach wants 2 up front with 4 attacking-minded midfielders behind.
Logic is getting pretty scrambled all over the shop at the moment.
In other threads, Sherwood is being laughed at for his "guts and passion" schtick.
And yet in this thread, he's being crucified for dropping the most "guts and passion" player we have - Sandro.
Those two things are completely contradictory. You can't think both that Sherwood is about nothing but "guts and passion", and at the same time that he's wrong to drop our most "guts and passion" player.
Similarly, you can't criticise Sherwood for wanting to play neanderthal football when he consistently favours offensive players over defensive ones. In fact, what we're seeing is Spurs fans who are more conservative and defensively minded than our coach. You lot want DM's, protection and a platform against Sunderland and Fulham at home, while our coach wants 2 up front with 4 attacking-minded midfielders behind.
Logic is getting pretty scrambled all over the shop at the moment.
Your posts are pretty boring tbh, not much insight and pretty bland!
In fact I'd go as far to say that you're a really **** poster on here, not really up to it are you?
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
I criticized Sherwood for his 'showing guts and passion' waffle in relation to the argument between Parks and Rose as well as how he's used it whenever he himself has flipped his stack. I referred to that as a 'neanderthal' way of behaving, and frankly, I understand if you disagree but to criticize it's logic as 'tortured'? Wrong. It isn't 'tortured' logic. If every single time there's a row you refer to it as 'passion and guts', it suggest clearly that said person lacks the ability to communicate 'guts and passion' in a less confrontational and more positive fashion. That stuff works as a 'firestarter' for 5 minutes. I think it gets pretty old after a few months. Evidently so do the players.
As for whether he is, or isn't, wrong to drop a player, that's a personal preference, But as a manager, you don't rinse someone out in public, even if you're goaded. It becomes an internal matter.
I am astounded that you can not see these points mate. Love your work, even in disagreement, but this just baffled me.
chicken_badge
Gudni Bergsson
Sandra
My posts are pretty boring? I apologise, I shall endevour to make them more entertaining in future for you, and focus less on the football. You on the other hand are a fantastic poster and pretty much the main reason I log on purely to read your insightful posts. Keep up the good work....
Superhudd
Simon Davies
Or maybe some people are pi ssed because he is singlehandedly devaluing the players in the squad. At this particular point I'm not that bothered about tactics, this season any more, the life has been sucked from me regarding this season. What I care about is next season, the one where the new manager will come in and have to deal with the fall out, where Levy may need to go into the market and sell someone that Sherwood has c rapped all over. That is my concern about what is going on. Not whether we should be playing a DM or fricken not.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
I was under the impression that the "guts and passion" criticism was aimed towards him focusing more on motivation and less on tactics (to oversimplify things). Not from the choices being made in terms of player selection.
He's pretty consistently picked fairly attacking line-ups, choosing young Bentaleb ahead of more seasoned players, playing without proper defensive midfielders, using Sigurdsson and even Eriksen in the centre of midfield, playing two out and out strikers etc. Sometimes he's been criticised for taking this a bit too far, like in the cup game against Arsenal or league game against Liverpool.
He hasn't been criticised for picking "guts and passion" players like Sandro over technical players as far as I've seen at least.
Equating "guts and passion" in terms of motivation over tactics (still oversimplifying) with picking guts and passion type players like Sandro doesn't make sense to me.
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indianspur
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Chadli alongside Paulinho has been anonymous, and as a partnership it just doesnt work.......id have liked to have seen Sandro alongside Chadli if timmy was insistent on trying something different. Chadli is a more talented player than Paulinho imo
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
There's always one that wades in with a reasonable and logical opinion that ruins the fun for everybody.
Not nice getting negative feedback even from someone you do not know is it? Now imagine this was done by your boss/ manager in public. Not going to make you feel very good about yourself is it? That Sandro (wrongly) tweeted what he did clearly shows that there is a lack of communication between him and Sherwood.
When I started managing other people many years ago one thing I learnt very quickly was that the positive approach works far better than the negative. Sherwood wii realise this one day but I hope its at another club.
Thanks for the feedback by the way, glad you're not my manager!
Maltese Falcon
Niko Kranjcar
Quick question about Sandro....
If we ere to put him on the transfer list tomorrow, how many of the top 4 teams + Manure do you think would be interested?
If we ere to put him on the transfer list tomorrow, how many of the top 4 teams + Manure do you think would be interested?
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Sandro was the one who made the issue public with his tweet. Sherwood just answered a question put to him. You cannot compare football with real life, how often do real employees go on twitter to criticise their line manager whether subtle or not and then carry on being employees?
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
The Beast doesn't cry.
Hopefully he'll use this as motivation to come back stronger and better next season and prove Sherwood wrong, just like Ade wanted to prove AVB wrong.
Hopefully he'll use this as motivation to come back stronger and better next season and prove Sherwood wrong, just like Ade wanted to prove AVB wrong.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Not really mate if Sandro is "the beast" we believe him to be he will come good just like Ade. I expect freezing a player out completely with no obvious reason doesn't do much for their resale value, but many fans seemed none to bothered about that.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Precisely.
Roland Beurre
Tony Parks
In my estimation, and in the words of Elvis, less than zero