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Rodrigo Bentancur

Good that he gave a decent apology and fairly quickly. Hopefully it was heartfelt and there's no real underlying issue there.

There isn't, I've lived in some of the Spanish countries, they have zero sense of political correctness or even general awareness of brick like that, even in a professional workplace, ffs, a corner store in Spain is still called a "chino", and they still sell candy with a blackface character on it ..

Not defending ignorance, but the combination of knowing the culture and the nature of his apology (quick and seemed personal), I don't think it'll be anything to worry about.
 
There isn't, I've lived in some of the Spanish countries, they have zero sense of political correctness or even general awareness of brick like that, even in a professional workplace, ffs, a corner store in Spain is still called a "chino", and they still sell candy with a blackface character on it ..

Not defending ignorance, but the combination of knowing the culture and the nature of his apology (quick and seemed personal), I don't think it'll be anything to worry about.
Also quite a bit of the real nasty kind of racism, as there is everywhere apparently.

Definitely want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Particularly as he gave a quick and decent apology. Just saying we can't completely rule out that there's more to this.

Hopefully this kind of situation can help somewhat with what you describe. A couple more people being aware that this kind of thing isn't good.
 
There isn't, I've lived in some of the Spanish countries, they have zero sense of political correctness or even general awareness of brick like that, even in a professional workplace, ffs, a corner store in Spain is still called a "chino", and they still sell candy with a blackface character on it ..

Not defending ignorance, but the combination of knowing the culture and the nature of his apology (quick and seemed personal), I don't think it'll be anything to worry about.
This, as a Brit, always gives me a rub the eyes moment when I am in the area.
No malicious intent in any way, just an ignorance perhaps to global derogatory terms.

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Good and right that he apologised and quickly. I’d understand if people still feel sore about it especially in South Korea but hopefully we can move on and there isn’t any bad feelings in the dressing room. If you fudge up, then own it and apologise but I don’t think he should be sacked as some have suggested. Glad he didn’t follow his fellow countryman Luis Suarez and act like he’s done nothing wrong at all and blame the other person for it like he did with Evra.
 
Also quite a bit of the real nasty kind of racism, as there is everywhere apparently.

Definitely want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Particularly as he gave a quick and decent apology. Just saying we can't completely rule out that there's more to this.

Hopefully this kind of situation can help somewhat with what you describe. A couple more people being aware that this kind of thing isn't good.

I hope this is a one off but I am slightly concerned given that we know how the world works in 2024 and that people will no doubt be trawling through his history, social media posts etc in an attempt to find some similar racist things he’s done or said. Like I said hopefully this is it and nothing else surfaces. I don’t think a fine from the club would be harsh or unfair personally.
 
I hope this is a one off but I am slightly concerned given that we know how the world works in 2024 and that people will no doubt be trawling through his history, social media posts etc in an attempt to find some similar racist things he’s done or said. Like I said hopefully this is it and nothing else surfaces. I don’t think a fine from the club would be harsh or unfair personally.

A small fine going to a charity nominated by son with maybe a personal appearance by them both and then quietly let it drop.
 
I hope this is a one off but I am slightly concerned given that we know how the world works in 2024 and that people will no doubt be trawling through his history, social media posts etc in an attempt to find some similar racist things he’s done or said. Like I said hopefully this is it and nothing else surfaces. I don’t think a fine from the club would be harsh or unfair personally.
The way the world works now means that Spurs could get bombed through social media until they are forced into doing something that they shouldn't
 
I hope this is a one off but I am slightly concerned given that we know how the world works in 2024 and that people will no doubt be trawling through his history, social media posts etc in an attempt to find some similar racist things he’s done or said. Like I said hopefully this is it and nothing else surfaces. I don’t think a fine from the club would be harsh or unfair personally.

It had nothing to do with the club. He was on international duty.
 
The way the world works now means that Spurs could get bombed through social media until they are forced into doing something that they shouldn't
Forced into what that they shouldn't?

I can't really think of anything the club shouldn't do that it seems at all likely that they would be forced into around this.
It had nothing to do with the club. He was on international duty.
Of course it has something to do with the club. He's our player, said what he said about our captain.

By now it's probably/hopefully already being handled, but it's definitely a thing the club should make sure doesn't become an issue beyond what's already happened. Make sure Bentancur understands why this isn't acceptable and shouldn't be repeated, make sure Bentancur and Son are cool to work together again.
 
Forced into what that they shouldn't?

I can't really think of anything the club shouldn't do that it seems at all likely that they would be forced into around this.

Of course it has something to do with the club. He's our player, said what he said about our captain.

By now it's probably/hopefully already being handled, but it's definitely a thing the club should make sure doesn't become an issue beyond what's already happened. Make sure Bentancur understands why this isn't acceptable and shouldn't be repeated, make sure Bentancur and Son are cool to work together again.

So if you were on holiday with a work colleague and you said something offensive to him as a joke. You think it would be alright that your employer could discipline you for it?
 

The "he wouldn't intentionally say anything offensive" bit is interesting, I mean Bentancur didn't say that Asians look the same accidentally did he.

The PR friendly angle was always for Son to publicly accept the apology and declare they have moved on. We'll never know if it's a genuine learning point for Bentancur.

Imagine if Son came out and said "Given my lived experiences of racism and continued active participation on the kick it out initiative I actually find it unacceptable that a colleague, effectively a subordinate of mine would fall short of the reasonable standards we ask of fans to not be racist, saying sorry doesn't make whatever you've said okay and any reasonable apology should also have been aimed towards the Asian population not just towards me. I'm not going to publicly forgive Barry the West Ham supporter making ching chong noises whilst I'm doing my job so why is it any different in this case?". Would Sonny then get brick for not accepting the apology? He puts a fair bit of time in to raising awareness and I could understand him not just wanting to sweep it under the carpet/ move forwards amicably.

I am somewhat playing devils advocate / being cynical here and I don't think Bentancur has a full on hatred of Asians as such, obviously (imo at least) it's a case of ignorance rather than vitriol which arguably isn't the case when you have fans making monkey gestures and the likes. I will also add I haven't seen the exact context of the comment / joke, imo you can say something unacceptable if it's clear you're mocking the people who would sincerely say something as stupid / ignorant to make a point but it can obviously then get a bit opaque in terms of intent.
 
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