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Grays_1890 said:
Sorry I missed that

I have my doubts if I am honest, can driver less cars work in collaboration with driven cars? We have been driving for GHod knows how many years as humans and still can't master it, imagine men v machine? There will be tinkle taking everywhere causing accidents left right and centre.

How or why we didn't follow the DLR system for inter city travel beyond Canary Wharf is beyond me,
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Driverless cars are supposed to have 360 censors and literally won't be able to crash into anything (automatic diversionary action if it tracks anything getting too close). And ones that are drivers fault will all be recorded by its cameras.

We already have self-parking cars, fully-automated shipping ports, autopilot on airplanes, military planes (Typhoons etc.) that are well beyond human abilities to operate, so it's not a big shift on from them. Even trains run in 'blocks' on the track that are managed by computers, well beyond human-operated signalling.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Driverless cars are supposed to have 360 censors and literally won't be able to crash into anything (automatic diversionary action if it tracks anything getting too close). And ones that are drivers fault will all be recorded by its cameras.

We already have self-parking cars, fully-automated shipping ports, autopilot on airplanes, military planes (Typhoons etc.) that are well beyond human abilities to operate, so it's not a big shift on from them. Even trains run in 'blocks' on the track that are managed by computers, well beyond human-operated signalling.
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do we have pilotless planes? autopilot has been a feature for decades but as far as I am aware no large scale pilotless planes - even if the technology is there I doubt there will be the will.
 
r-u-s-x said:
do we have pilotless planes? autopilot has been a feature for decades but as far as I am aware no large scale pilotless planes - even if the technology is there I doubt there will be the will.
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Well there's drones, although they are piloted remotely from bases in Lincolnshire or wherever

I don't think there's an awful lot airplane pilots or train drivers now routinely do now. They are more there for reassurance or in case of emergencies, maybe a bit around departure/docking.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Well there's drones, although they are piloted remotely from bases in Lincolnshire or wherever

I don't think there's an awful lot airplane pilots or train drivers now routinely do now. They are more there for reassurance or in case of emergencies, maybe a bit around departure/docking.
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You would start a riot on Southern Rail if you said that
 
Gutter Boy said:
I was at a Mercedes place the other day and all their R&D energies are focused on this now. Uber have already made the first step. No one will own cars, you will just book journeys - like door-to-door public transport without the peasants, or taxis without the drivers. If you are the only one making a journey, a single seater that's in the area will turn up. If there are several of you, then an MPV. The need that ways is for only about 12% of the cars that are currently on the road.

Freight also won't be needed, as 3D printers will mean most things can be manufactured at home.
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Your bonkers

but pretty much my favourite poster, love yout vision for the future it is a world I hope i get to live in.
 
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Gutter Boy said:
Driverless cars are supposed to have 360 censors and literally won't be able to crash into anything (automatic diversionary action if it tracks anything getting too close). And ones that are drivers fault will all be recorded by its cameras.

We already have self-parking cars, fully-automated shipping ports, autopilot on airplanes, military planes (Typhoons etc.) that are well beyond human abilities to operate, so it's not a big shift on from them. Even trains run in 'blocks' on the track that are managed by computers, well beyond human-operated signalling.
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I think @Gutter Boy has a point and in general i agree with him.

It's the playing out of it that's difficult.

In a perfect world we'd have a cut off day where everyone would switch over to driverless cars.
The problem is so many industries are affected. Car sales, Taxi drivers, Fuel stations, Trains, Buses, Repair/Service garages (especially if we would only need 12% of the vehicles we have now), of course there is a lot of good (environmental) to come from such a move and a whole more efficient way for people to move around.

Just not quite sure how it plays out though.
 
All jokes aside its generational, Its all about re education and people will come through schooling looking at new skills rather than what we have today, people will be employed on the production line to build stuff rather than drive stuff, everything evolves
 
Grays_1890 said:
All jokes aside its generational, Its all about re education and people will come through schooling looking at new skills rather than what we have today, people will be employed on the production line to build stuff rather than drive stuff, everything evolves
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I wonder if in 50 years time my son will be watching countryfile and it will be about how we used to drive our own cars.
 
Today seems to have been a day where Tory MPs are trying to convince themselves that May is any good...I'm not so sure anyone else is buying it though.
 
r-u-s-x said:
yep - there were three realistic options open - coalition with DUP, form a minority government (with the likelihood that DUP will vote with them most of the time) or another election.

its all pretty mental, this will make it harder to attack Corbyn in the future (terrorist sympathies).
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The right wing press will manage it. What are they saying about TM endangering the peace process? Can't be bothered to read those rags.
 
the dza said:
Today seems to have been a day where Tory MPs are trying to convince themselves that May is any good...I'm not so sure anyone else is buying it though.
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It's flimflam of course. Makes a change from the "Corbyn's a winner despite doing as badly as Gordon Brown" narrative though.
 
r-u-s-x said:
I am pretty sold that the Tories underinvest in public services before pointing to the fact they are not working and being sold off - they are doing it now with Prisons, Schools and NHS.
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the dza said:
Underfund a state owned entity, then when it starts to fail, blame the state and put forward the solution of privatisation -- especially if the state can subsidise the newly privatised company with public money.

Has this ever happened before? :D

As the saying goes "It's the Ideology, stupid!"
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the dza said:
And I am sure that there was no wilful under-investment with a view to seeing them privatised.
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That really depends on your measurement of underfunding.

The same coin viewed from the other side is that those public services were demanding more and more of our hard earned money because of a complete lack of a need for efficiency and the bullying tactics of greedy unions.

Had costs not got out of control then the funding would be sufficient and those services may not have needed to be removed from the public burden.
 
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