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scaramanga said:
A worldwide inflation bubble, a 1000% increase in energy prices due to a war beyond our control, a fudged economy due to a global pandemic, the list goes on.

All Brexit s fault, of course.
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Not all, but it’s a contributing factor.

It’s helped to weaken the £ and choked import of goods and labour, pushing inflation.
 
Hotshot-Tottenham said:
Not all, but it’s a contributing factor.

It’s helped to weaken the £ and choked import of goods and labour, pushing inflation.
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Those are not because of Brexit, they're because we didn't do anything to take advantage of Brexit.

We can bring in as much labour and as many cheap goods as we like. So far, the govt has chosen not to.

A sensible govt would have dropped corporation tax and loosened regulation so that we're competing with the rest of the world for business, and not scaring it away.
 
scaramanga said:
Those are not because of Brexit, they're because we didn't do anything to take advantage of Brexit.

We can bring in as much labour and as many cheap goods as we like. So far, the govt has chosen not to.

A sensible govt would have dropped corporation tax and loosened regulation so that we're competing with the rest of the world for business, and not scaring it away.
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but this was always going to be the case. Their Brexit plan was to Brexit. That’s it.

That alone is why we shouldn’t have Brexit(Ed)
 
DTA said:
but this was always going to be the case. Their Brexit plan was to Brexit. That’s it.

That alone is why we shouldn’t have Brexit(Ed)
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The fact that we now have the option to vote in a govt that will do precisely want we want them to is why we should have.

If we want to make the UK competitive and lower taxes/regulations then we can. If we want to ape the EU by putting up protectionist barriers and propping up sick industries then we can do that.
 
scaramanga said:
The fact that we now have the option to vote in a govt that will do precisely want we want them to is why we should have.

If we want to make the UK competitive and lower taxes/regulations then we can. If we want to ape the EU by putting up protectionist barriers and propping up sick industries then we can do that.
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And who are you you going to vote in? That will do that? Out of the only two parties that are likely to win?
 
scaramanga said:
The fact that we now have the option to vote in a govt that will do precisely want we want them to is why we should have.

If we want to make the UK competitive and lower taxes/regulations then we can. If we want to ape the EU by putting up protectionist barriers and propping up sick industries then we can do that.
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lower regulation is not wanted (for example) by those who voted Brexit because they wanted higher regulation… on animal ware fare, food standards, immigration controls etc. etc.

brexit was sold as something for everyone it’s turning more in to nothing for nobody (that should be nothing for everyone… nothing for nobody sound better)
 
DTA said:
lower regulation is not wanted (for example) by those who voted Brexit because they wanted higher regulation… on animal ware fare, food standards, immigration controls etc. etc.

brexit was sold as something for everyone it’s turning more in to nothing for nobody (that should be nothing for everyone… nothing for nobody sound better)
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Those that wanted brexit fell into a few categories. Those that pushed and sold it certainly desired lax regulations, lower taxes, lower oversight on their actions and consolidation of wealth at the top. Coincidentally that is what the Tories want. Funny that.
And those others that were sold the brexit 'dream' were given a blank canvas upon which they could paint their image of the uplands. The landscape they see now looks nothing like their imagined brexit. How could it? Every picture was different.
 
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The frustrating thing was it was so predictable. Not pre-vote, it was complex to model effectively and to get your head around all the detail. But post - advisory - vote as the detail was investigated, it was clear that the outcome would be short of the promises. But by then it had become polarised, in or out. Spurs or Arsenal. And when Boris had to go further into a hard Brexit to avoid the obvious problems with Brexit, the writing was on the wall. It was an optics exercise, of holding onto imagined realities for as long as possible and ignoring actuality.
 
DTA said:
lower regulation is not wanted (for example) by those who voted Brexit because they wanted higher regulation… on animal ware fare, food standards, immigration controls etc. etc.

brexit was sold as something for everyone it’s turning more in to nothing for nobody (that should be nothing for everyone… nothing for nobody sound better)
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You can't lump everyone who voted for Brexit into one category. Plenty of people who believe in 1970s political views voted for it too.

The one thing they all voted for is for us to choose. We can do that every 4-5 years.
 
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