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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Mikey10 said:
Try taking a dog with you when you holiday in N Ireland. Moving from one part of the UK to another post-Brexit involves paying for a veterinary examination and resulting paperwork which has just cost us £180. Needs to be repeated for any further journeys outside 28 days of the original trip.
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First world problems.
 
Mikey10 said:
£180 for fudge all is a lot of money to me - especially when I do that trip three or four times a year.

Just another sign of the additional hassle at borders we were all told Brexit wouldn’t bring.
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The European negotiators forced that cost onto you.
 
johnola said:
The European negotiators forced that cost onto you.
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Or was it deluded people that were unable to model and envisage these, rather logical, problems? Many were able to predict them, could see the folly, while others lied promising cake or were just naive. Whichever you think it is the UK is left worse off with inefficiencies and cost.
 
Is it me or are the RMT union leaders almost always bald, proper geezers from Essex or Sarf London? I see they’re striking again today. Seems like they strike more than they actually work these days.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Is it me or are the RMT union leaders almost always bald, proper geezers from Essex or Sarf London? I see they’re striking again today. Seems like they strike more than they actually work these days.
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First time since covid I got across the railway crossing near me without having to wait at the barriers.

Let them do it more. Not Saturday we are up at the national for a play and need to get back.
 
Diamond Lights said:
Used to despise train strikes.Now i'm officially a champagne socialist, all for it. solidarity to the workers. If every industry and Unionisation, people wouldn't be using food banks whilst in work and our billionaires wouldn't have increased like they have been doing so.
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Im the opposite. Used to support them but they go on strike so often now it gets grating. Ironically, it’s the little people who get screwed over. It’s not just people who can’t get to work, people rely on public transport to get to hospital appointments and take their children to school whilst the train drivers strike on their £60k a year jobs which is considerably higher than the national average salary. Not being funny, but a lot of jobs and industries are at risk of being taken over by automation, it is what it is. I’d have a lot more sympathy if they were striking purely for safety reasons I’m a cynical fudger and I’m betting it’s more for selfish reasons.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Im the opposite. Used to support them but they go on strike so often now it gets grating. Ironically, it’s the little people who get screwed over. It’s not just people who can’t get to work, people rely on public transport to get to hospital appointments and take their children to school whilst the train drivers strike on their £60k a year jobs which is considerably higher than the national average salary. Not being funny, but a lot of jobs and industries are at risk of being taken over by automation, it is what it is. I’d have a lot more sympathy if they were striking purely for safety reasons I’m a cynical fudger and I’m betting it’s more for selfish reasons.
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it wasn't train drivers striking today
 
Jurgen the German said:
Im the opposite. Used to support them but they go on strike so often now it gets grating. Ironically, it’s the little people who get screwed over. It’s not just people who can’t get to work, people rely on public transport to get to hospital appointments and take their children to school whilst the train drivers strike on their £60k a year jobs which is considerably higher than the national average salary. Not being funny, but a lot of jobs and industries are at risk of being taken over by automation, it is what it is. I’d have a lot more sympathy if they were striking purely for safety reasons I’m a cynical fudger and I’m betting it’s more for selfish reasons.
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The RMT strikes (excluding the london underground) are not drivers striking for the most part. It's myriad of other workers earning far less than the £60k you mention (and even then, there's nothing to say that just because you earn £60k (whilst working unsocial hours and shift work) you shouldn't be able to strike). Workers are striking to protect their jobs, to protect their working hours and working patterns, to protect their pensions and yes, in order to negotiate a decent pay rise - all under threat from the railway companies. If that's being selfish, then good on them for looking out for themselves and their families, no one else is going to do it for them. I love how people are so quick to look at other people's alleged earnings and judge that they should be happy with their lot. No one strikes and gives up wages for the fun of it. Maybe the fact that people rely on trains to get to work, to get to school, to get to hospital appointments etc. etc. actually shows how critical those workers are, and that should be recognised.
You are right that automation is happening in lots of industries and I don't doubt it is needed in the rail industry as well, but I haven't heard the RMT say they are opposed to that but rather that they want to make sure that where it is introduced there is a fair way to handle resultant redundancies. Nothing wrong with that.
 
Part of the strike is because they want to make significant redundancies in the name of modernisation then make the remaining staff work more weekends and longer hours... despite the 'modernisation'. Hmmm

Also as said above the majority of the Union striking is not drivers it is other staff on much lower salaries looking at real term pay cuts.
 
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