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I disagree. We might have the dignity to be honest! But a desire for power trumps honesty. Maybe the question should be, which leader could best handle a backtrack? Boris hands down.
You're probably right. Boris could probably have the widest potential affect on this situation...good and bad :D

The thing is theres not much wriggle room beyond the current options no matter what nonsense any of the candidate s spout.
 
Boris Johnson has secured the highest number of votes in the first ballot to select the Conservative party leader and next prime minister.

Three contenders - Mark Harper, Andrea Leadsom and Esther McVey - have been knocked out, in the secret ballot held in the House of Commons.

Mr Johnson received 114 votes, Jeremy Hunt was second with 43, and Michael Gove third with 37 votes.

Seven candidates progress to the next round of voting next week.

The two most popular MPs will be put to Tory party members in a final vote later this month.

The winner of the contest to succeed Theresa May is expected to be announced in the week of 22 July.

Mr Johnson said he was "delighted to win the first ballot, but we have a long way to go".

Mr Hanrooster thanked his supporters, saying it was "terrific to have more votes from colleagues than I could have hoped for".

And a spokesperson for Michael Gove's campaign said: "Everyone had written us off. People said we were going backwards. But we gained support and are in touching distance of second. It's all to play for."

Mr Stewart told the BBC's Politics Live he was "completely over the moon" to have got through the first vote.

He said he only had six declared votes ahead of the poll, but "more than three times that" voted for him in the secret ballot.

Ms McVey said she was "extremely grateful" to those who had voted for her in the ballot.

Subsequent ballots are scheduled to take place on 18, 19 and 20 June to whittle down the contenders until only two are left.

The final pair will then be put to a vote of members of the wider Conservative Party from 22 June, with the winner expected to be announced about four weeks later.
 
It's gonna be Boris isn't it? It feels like we are in some Black Mirror experiment to see just how far you can push things until the world implodes.

It's pretty disappointing. I was sure there was enough widespread hostility across MPs that he wouldn't make the final two. He'll also get the Raab votes in the later stages, which will get him across the line. The only hope is a major gaff or scandal over the next week
 
It's pretty disappointing. I was sure there was enough widespread hostility across MPs that he wouldn't make the final two. He'll also get the Raab votes in the later stages, which will get him across the line. The only hope is a major gaff or scandal over the next week

what could he do that would be worse than things he's said and done in the past?
 
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Looks like Boris will be the next PM. He is hot favourite with party members and now looks almost certain to finish top two among MPs. The only question was whether MPs would let their personal dislike of him override political concerns.

Weird thing about Boris is that when he was mayor he was actually really popular in what is a mainly Labour city, managed to be fairly liberal and business friendly but ever since the referendum he's completely changed.

Boris Johnson has an unfair advantage in the leadership race … there’s two of him

There are only three Tory leadership candidates that matter – and two of them are Boris Johnson.

... One served as mayor of London from 2008-2016. He has liberal, metropolitan instincts – broadly pro-immigration, old-fashioned in his use of idiom, but a moderniser at heart. That Johnson was once celebrated by his party as the “Heineken candidate” because, in homage to the old advertising slogan, he could refresh parts of the electorate that other Tories couldn’t reach. He won in the capital, a Labour heartland. Twice.

Then there is 2016-2019 Johnson, figurehead of the Vote Leave campaign, the ultimate Brexit-booster. He is a more aggressive, divisive figure – a partisan of nationalistic culture wars who has consorted with Steve Bannon, the notorious alt-right ideologue inside Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. This is the Johnson who compares Muslim women in burqas to “letterboxes” and who defended the jibe yesterday as a bit of unvarnished plain-speaking – the kind of thing the public prefers to “bureaucratic platitudes”. This is post-truth, Trumpesque Johnson who threatens to take the UK out of the EU with no deal and to renege on financial commitments already made to Brussels. He would build an invisible wall and make Ireland pay for it.

Both Johnsons are dispensing wild promises to Tory MPs behind closed doors. Moderates and former remainers have been led to understand that London Johnson is the real one; that he does truly understand the perils of no-deal Brexit, that his domestic policy agenda would not be some turbo-Thatcherite slash-and-burn charge to the right. On the contrary, a liberal social reformer would emerge to renew Conservatism for the benefit of people who feel economically left behind.

Meanwhile, Trumpy Johnson is reassuring hardline Brexiteers that nothing is off the table – not even a prorogation of parliament – in the drive to get the UK out of the EU at any cost. He cuts taxes for high-earners and lights the bonfire of regulation that Eurosceptic ultras have always seen as the festive culmination of their drive for liberation from Brussels. This Johnson promises to win back voters from Nigel Farage. He is the one that most Tory members (including an unquantified caucus of newly arrived ex-Ukippers) seem to think they are getting. But the other Johnson is meant to lead a different kind of electoral recovery, shoring up seats that could be lost because pro-European Conservatives flock to the Lib Dems or stay at home on polling day. Self-styled “One Nation” Conservatives and rightwing ultras each seem to think the other side is being taken for a ride, which suggests they all are.

It is possible that this strategy will unravel before the end of the contest. Maybe enough people will be put off by the flagrant duplicity that a non-Johnson candidate can somehow navigate a path to victory. But with two Boris Johnsons running, and both likely to make the final round, the laws of probability alone point to someone of that name being our next prime minister. Who he really is, what, if anything, he believes, and what he might be capable of doing is anybody’s guess.

So now the question is which Boris will be the PM.
 
The winner has to make false promises - Brexit means our politicians have to lie to gain power. But it won’t matter because we’re more interested in entertainment than reality. Boris will promise the world - make Scara rich, while at the same time supporting the disaffected people who’ve seen globalisation pass them by. That they’ll be less money for them is by the by. In the world of bluster saying something is enough.

Boris would need a strong cabinet to succeed. He could then fumble his way around the nation making great proclamations while more practical diligent people did the work. Boris is a rousing orator and force but not one for detail.

Of all the schmucks running, he is by far the most captivating. He’s also the fall guy, with more able politicians seeing that the job is a poisoned chalice. But write your name in history Boris even if you do take some collateral damage to yourself and the nation!


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He won't make me rich by any stretch of the imagination. He might convince me to buy that pair of jeans I've been considering for a while though.

Wait Jeans???

wow.


I am now worried about our pre season game in Singapore is it going to be safe for our team to go to. The a hell of a lot of racists in Singapore at the moment protesting and wanting self government.
 
Wait Jeans???

wow.


I am now worried about our pre season game in Singapore is it going to be safe for our team to go to. The a hell of a lot of racists in Singapore at the moment protesting and wanting self government.
I wear jeans sometimes - if they're made by proper tailors. Brioni are my jeans of choice, if not McQueen.

Edit: Just realised this is how grooming starts and that your next post will be asking for a photo of how they fit on the arse (snugly, BTW). I NEED AN ADULT. STRANGER DANGER #metoo
 
I wear jeans sometimes - if they're made by proper tailors. Brioni are my jeans of choice, if not McQueen.

Edit: Just realised this is how grooming starts and that your next post will be asking for a photo of how they fit on the arse (snugly, BTW). I NEED AN ADULT. STRANGER DANGER #metoo
I bet you tuck your shirt into your jeans
 
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