***** OMT TOTTENHAM VS CHELSKI *****

[DeanoAustin]

Even Merson has articulated our issues well there. If we can see it and the pundits can see it, have no doubt that the players see it. There will be frustration building within that squad. We’re in a very tough spot right now.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

He was in a tough spot but he’s made his own bed with two of them.

Well
No one can tell me that it wasn’t stupid

 

[Mrs Vert]

Ange should be screaming at them to kill it.

And neither of these things are happening, which is why we are where we are

 

[Baleforce]

another game where we gave up a high xGa, doesn't only happen against City

 

[SubZero]

And why must grown ass men, be told every damn thing every damn time??! Why don't they have common sense in situations??! Just cos Ange tells you to pass out every single time....sometimes it just not possible. I like VDV hoofed it down in the first half......Sometimes we are just completely brainless

My only answer to that has to be the coaching. The players are actually supposed to follow some sort, any sort of game plan. That game plan may or may not have elements of actual tactics, which is up to the coaching staff to drill into their heads. I have reverted to blame the poor coaching rather than the manager who employs them, how reasonable or unreasonable that may be. As you say, not only grown ass men, but professional grown ass men who have been playing football most of their lives.

 

[Mikey10]

He is but I’ll see your Palmer and raise you John Terry.

May I thrown in Cesc Fabregas?

 

[Mrs Vert]

Even Merson has articulated our issues well there. If we can see it and the pundits can see it, have no doubt that the players see it. There will be frustration building within that squad. We’re in a very tough spot right now.

No, I am not having that. I will flat out refuse to accept Merson says anything sensible

 

[billyiddo]

I mean, he's said to himself - he wants players to find solutions out on the pitch because it's more sustainable than him giving them the solutions from the sidelines.

Up to you if you believe that.

That's passing the buck to me

 

[DeanoAustin]

No, I am not having that. I will flat out refuse to accept Merson says anything sensible

It shocked me too. Or maybe it’s conclusive proof that I’m wrong.

 

[nelto]

The giveaway pen from Biss was horrendous, but the more you see of Pape’s challenge the worse it gets. Why did he do that and if was going to foul him at least wait until he takes two more steps and is out of the box!

 

[Baleforce]

My only answer to that has to be the coaching. The players are actually supposed to follow some sort, any sort of game plan. That game plan may or may not have elements of actual tactics, which is up to the coaching staff to drill into their heads. I have reverted to blame the poor coaching rather than the manager who employs them, how reasonable or unreasonable that may be. As you say, not only grown ass men, but professional grown ass men who have been playing football most of their lives.

that he seemingly wants them to throw out so many considered norms is probably playing a part too

 

[Mikey10]

Dodged the question.

He may well get the sack. But we should have been cruising. Without the players at his disposal the manager wasn't far from setting us up to get the W. Two brain-dead pens aside we should have won.

He’s the manager. The players are encouraged to play like headless chickens. Not fair to be surprised when they do.

 

[harr1984]

He was in a tough spot but he’s made his own bed with two of them.

Are you referring to Romero as the other one? He wasn't rushed back, he's been asked about when is Romero back for weeks and has consistently said he's not ready but getting closer. Just because when he comes back he got injured doesn't mean it was because he was pushed into the side too early. Unfortunately it happens, and we are having zero luck in the injury department right now..,,

 

[Kompakted]

This game encapsulates the biggest issue with Ange and pinpoints where the blame stops with him. Park the "is is ENIC or is it the manager" for a minute. Do Chelsea have a better squad, better investment etc? Maybe. But we went 2-0 up and there was pretty much zero game management from there. I watch the Forest United game by contrast and Forest really changed the way they played through the game and really frustrated Utd.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Just seen how they got their third
Thought palmer passed it to him and didn’t know it was a lucky defection.

 

[Baleforce]

Are you referring to Romero as the other one? He wasn't rushed back, he's been asked about when is Romero back for weeks and has consistently said he's not ready but getting closer. Just because when he comes back he got injured doesn't mean it was because he was pushed into the side too early. Unfortunately it happens, and we are having zero luck in the injury department right now..,,

is it luck or are they being mismanaged?

 

[SubZero]

The giveaway pen from Biss was horrendous, but the more you see of Pape’s challenge the worse it gets. Why did he do that and if was going to foul him at least wait until he takes two more steps and is out of the box!

That brainless judo tackle was worthy of a wage fine and training with the reserves.

 

[Baleforce]

Just seen how they got their third
Thought palmer passed it to him and didn’t know it was a lucky defection.

deflections are unlikely to fall your way when they have a 3 on 1 in that area of the box

if we had had more bodies back there was more chance of us winning the deflected ball

 

[DeanoAustin]

This game encapsulates the biggest issue with Ange and pinpoints where the blame stops with him. Park the "is is ENIC or is it the manager" for a minute. Do Chelsea have a better squad, better investment etc? Maybe. But we went 2-0 up and there was pretty much zero game management from there. I watch the Forest United game by contrast and Forest really changed the way they played through the game and really frustrated Utd.

ENIC are fair game for criticism but we’re 11th. We’ve lost 7 of 15 games. We’ve lost 19 of 40 games. Ange is underachieving right now.

It isn’t a sackable offence yet. He deserves more time but it’s impossible to make a case that he isn’t doing a poor job at the moment.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

deflections are unlikely to fall your way when they have a 3 on 1 in that area of the box

if we had had more bodies back there was more chance of us winning the deflected ball

We had more players in than they than they did
It bounced to their man