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I think when he first came, RvdV was having hamstring problems and possibly wasn't at full fitness. What was then a necessary substitution became the default easy one.
 
for the 1st time in years im not looking forward to our opening fixture in the league. interested to see how we perform
 
I'm actually really looking forward to it, I think we can win this. All of a sudden I've had a wave of optimism, I reckon we can do em either on the counter attack if we remain strong or if they play with only 2 in midfield I think we will have it a hell of a lot easier.
 
Nothing against any of them, but so far Verts is unproven in the prem, and gallas, i suspect, is getting past it.

and we dont see them in training, we all have our own opinion on players, etc thing is we dont see them day in day out, our coach and his team do and ill go with his judgement
 
I really despise the way some of our "fans" talk about our players.

So you have to say they are all as good as Messi otherwise your not a fan ???

I support the club always have done always will do but we do have some mediocre players
 
So you have to say they are all as good as Messi otherwise your not a fan ???

I support the club always have done always will do but we do have some mediocre players

If course not but Dawson was a key player and played very well in our most successful seasons in recent years.
 
So you have to say they are all as good as Messi otherwise your not a fan ???

I support the club always have done always will do but we do have some mediocre players

No, you don't have to say they are all Messi. But describing a Spurs captain, who has been a key role in the clubs best ever Prem era defence, was part of the a run to the 1/4 of the CL and is a full England International, as "mediocre" is disrespectful of his achievements and what he's contributed to the club you support.
 
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