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***OMT TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR v nottingham forest***

glorygloryeze said:
It's sad when you're almost relieved that we kept the score down in respect to what you expected would happen....
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We're excellent at managing to lose by a margin of 1 goal, it's evidently something we've been working on. The goal difference factor could be huge at the end of the season (in determining whether we finish in 11th or 12th place)....
 
paxtonwolf said:
Almost the exact thing I was going to post once I got to the end of reading the last page.

Usually I get really p#ssed off, but now I fully expect to lose each game before kick-off, so today was no surprise, and quite frankly when 5pm came round I was not @rsed.

This guy is saving me loads of money because I refuse to go any home games until he is gone.

Now I dont work Saturday mornings anymore I am quite looking forward to us being back at the Lane on Saturday 26th January 2025 for the Leicester City game...
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Snap. I didn’t bother to follow the game today, as I was out for a family walk. Tuned into MotD, saw how it panned out, switched it off and went to bed. I felt nothing.

It may sound a touch (melo)dramatic but I think Spurs may have finally ‘broken’ me. After 30 years of properly following them, I just feel like I can’t be arsed with it all. We’ve got our second child due in a few weeks, going to games are fudging expensive and I’ve put my ST on the exchange for the rest of the season.

I’m sure I’ll be ‘back’ at some point, but for now, and for me, it’s just not worth wasting the energy on as that’s likely to be in even shorter supply come the end of March! I don’t blame Ange for that, I don’t blame Levy. It’s on me and hope I get that spark back at some point.

COYS. Hope everyone here has had a decent Christmas regardless.
 
spurspinter1 said:
We're excellent at managing to lose by a margin of 1 goal, it's evidently something we've been working on. The goal difference factor could be huge at the end of the season (in determining whether we finish in 11th or 12th place)....
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Majority of our losses are by 1 goal margins
Majority of our wins are by 2 or 3 goal margins

Could say a lot things but to be says we can't manage games and don't do well in tight games, i.e. either we overwhelm our opponents or we inevitably make a mistake that costs us.
 
paxtonwolf said:
Almost the exact thing I was going to post once I got to the end of reading the last page.

Usually I get really p#ssed off, but now I fully expect to lose each game before kick-off, so today was no surprise, and quite frankly when 5pm came round I was not @rsed.

This guy is saving me loads of money because I refuse to go any home games until he is gone.

Now I dont work Saturday mornings anymore I am quite looking forward to us being back at the Lane on Saturday 26th January 2025 for the Leicester City game...
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Pretty much the same for me. Haven't watched a game for a few weeks now, as results seem to be inevitable.
Better things to do with an hour and a half of my time
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I’ve said since Ange has been here son has been brick
Bit he has his defenders because he scored
Johnson scores and gets pelters
It’s double standards
I’m not saying Johnson played well but he did do what he is asked too
Shoot and make the keeper work
We can’t carry him and son
And son right now is the worst player we have
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Johnson scores and gets pelters because he doesn’t do anything other than score. If you want guile, trickery and creativity then Johnson just isn’t the man to give it to you. When he doesn’t score he usually gives around a 4/10 performance. For all the stats people cite about our much famed attack, we’ve been shut out almost any many times as we have kept clean sheets.
 
mudshark said:
Absolutely. I keep hearing about how he's "stepped away" from the football "side" of things. This might incur the full wrath of all the blue-rinse phalanx of Levy's doting aunties on here, but stepped away, my hole. He's just achieved what he's wanted to do ever since he arrived here: pile enough bodies between himself and the court of public opinion so that there'll always be someone else in pole position to take all the flak when the latest wheeze inevitably goes tits-up. He's still got an iron grip on the purse strings, which is all that matters to him. Here's a bucket of spit, a bag of sawdust and some tinsel, build me a Taj Mahal. Levy cares about money, he doesn't care about football, and never has. It probably baffles him that anybody else should and that people are sufficiently exercised about it to have made him a multi-millionaire.
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It’s profit and property for him. That’s what he studied at university, that’s what he’s about.

Raziel said:
I also think Gray, Bergvall, Udogie aren't being helped in their development by being constantly hung out to dry ...
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This is one of my biggest concerns now. How we play and the manner of our defeats must be taking its toll on these young players, particularly Gray, given what he’s being asked to take responsibility for.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Johnson scores and gets pelters because he doesn’t do anything other than score. If you want guile, trickery and creativity then Johnson just isn’t the man to give it to you. When he doesn’t score he usually gives around a 4/10 performance. For all the stats people cite about our much famed attack, we’ve been shut out almost any many times as we have kept clean sheets.
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Yeah Johnson is more of a striker than a winger. Reminds me of Darren Bent or Jermain Defoe rather than anything a wide man should be offering. If Johnson was playing in a kind of poacher role off the shoulder of the defence next to Solanke wouldn't have so much of a problem with his lack of productivity when he wasn't scoring.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Johnson scores and gets pelters because he doesn’t do anything other than score. If you want guile, trickery and creativity then Johnson just isn’t the man to give it to you. When he doesn’t score he usually gives around a 4/10 performance. For all the stats people cite about our much famed attack, we’ve been shut out almost any many times as we have kept clean sheets.
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4/10 that's fudging generous. 😅
 
Mikey10 said:
It’s profit and property for him. That’s what he studied at university, that’s what he’s about.
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I don't think that's entirely fair. Levy's given 25 years of his life to this club so far and it'll be what he's remembered for in life. I have no doubt he cares about football success and wants it. He's one of the most actively involved chairmen. For a start, he's at every game. You can't say that for the owners of the other big clubs.

The problem, for me, is that he wants to run the football club 100% like a normal business. He wants football success but he won't compromise enough on his business nous to achieve it.
 
DeanoAustin said:
I don't think that's entirely fair. Levy's given 25 years of his life to this club so far and it'll be what he's remembered for in life. I have no doubt he cares about football success and wants it. He's one of the most actively involved chairmen. For a start, he's at every game. You can't say that for the owners of the other big clubs.

The problem, for me, is that he wants to run the football club 100% like a normal business. He wants football success but he won't compromise enough on his business nous to achieve it.
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He’ll be remembered for the stadium and for building the brand, for sure - not for anything achieved on the field, unless he can turn our strong financial position into trophies before he toddles off.

“He’s given his life…”. Hmmm…he’s been amply rewarded, and his family are set up for generations to come. I think him working hard is a given; he’s paid a huge salary to do so.
 
Mikey10 said:
He’ll be remembered for the stadium and for building the brand, for sure - not for anything achieved on the field, unless he can turn our strong financial position into trophies before he toddles off.

“He’s given his life…”. Hmmm…he’s been amply rewarded, and his family are set up for generations to come. I think him working hard is a given; he’s paid a huge salary to do so.
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I'm not doubting the last bit. But Levy is in his sixties now. This is what he'll be remembered for, this is his legacy as far as his public reputation goes. There is no doubt in my mind, he'd love to have on-field success. He just has a different idea of how to achieve it that I think is fatally flawed.

Thing is, someone posted a while back, that if we won a couple of pots this season (I know, I know), ENIC's tenure would have achieved the same onfield success in terms of trophies per year that we've achieved in the rest of our existence. If he could win a couple of trophies before he goes, he'd have improved our league finishes, built us an unbelievable stadium and training ground and taken us on a level in terms of revenue generation. What a great legacy to leave the club and the area.

Unfortunately, that's a "what if" right now. Lack of trophies continue to be a stick to beat him around the head with.
 
DeanoAustin said:
I don't think that's entirely fair. Levy's given 25 years of his life to this club so far and it'll be what he's remembered for in life. I have no doubt he cares about football success and wants it. He's one of the most actively involved chairmen. For a start, he's at every game. You can't say that for the owners of the other big clubs.

The problem, for me, is that he wants to run the football club 100% like a normal business. He wants football success but he won't compromise enough on his business nous to achieve it.
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This for me too.
 
Mikey10 said:
He’ll be remembered for the stadium and for building the brand, for sure - not for anything achieved on the field, unless he can turn our strong financial position into trophies before he toddles off.

“He’s given his life…”. Hmmm…he’s been amply rewarded, and his family are set up for generations to come. I think him working hard is a given; he’s paid a huge salary to do so.
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Would you be happier if he took money out as a dividend?
 
Mikey10 said:
I’d be happier if he oversaw the football side the way he has overseen the business side.
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But you talk about him getting paid
He gets paid less than most of the players and managers
And I’d happily see him gone
But he owns a big chunk of the club
It makes me crack up when I see the complaints about his salary
At least its public and legit
 
Bedfordspurs said:
But you talk about him getting paid
He gets paid less than most of the players and managers
And I’d happily see him gone
But he owns a big chunk of the club
It makes me crack up when I see the complaints about his salary
At least its public and legit
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Levy's salary is a rounding error on the money he has made riding the football gravy train for 25 years. He has ridden it magnificently and turned £30m into a billion. He still needs to pay the bills though and his equity in the club won't do that until such time he sells. He has to take a salary.
 
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