Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Was the bottom one yesterday and in the area?
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~ OMT ~ TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR FC v Liverpool FC ~ THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL ~ 2019 ~
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DeanoAustin
Rafael Van Der Vaart
It was in the area but from the Porto game I think. Same night Rose was penalised.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
They are making it up as they go along. Shambles.
Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
Except it didn't hit the arm! It hit his chest/shoulder. It's allowed to use the shoulder. If his arm is down his side, and the ball hit the exact same spot, it's never given. And it should not have been a penalty in this instance either. The direction his arm is pointing is of no relevance.
Daisuk
Nayim
The thing is though, it hit Sissoko, and rolled/bobbled down his arm, and clearly changed direction because of it. It does seem a bit up in the air what is given as a pen and what isn't, but there have been a lot of these types of pens awarded this season and seasons before it. I think it's ridiculous that stuff like this is a pen, but they seem to be relatively consistent in giving these (didn't see the Arnold one before).
I thought overall we were the better side yesterday, but ultimately just didn't create enough, Pool kept us at bay, van Dijk bossing it.
Did anyone else notice Milner taking corners while the ball not really being inside the little quarter circle thing for corners? It really looked like the ball wasn't even on the line. He did that just before their second goal as well. No practical difference, I suppose, but I found it odd that he was allowed to do it many times over.
I was bitter yesterday, but would've been fuming if we had a better game ourselves. It was largely a pretty boring match of football. Not a lot of chances for either side. I didn't even notice Kane being on the pitch. Don't want to single anyone out though, proud of the boys for reaching the final, and again, I actually thought we were the better side yesterday - margins in football. Hadn't we conceded that early pen or had we gotten an equalizer, then who knows ...
We'll be back.
Legohamster
Ian Walker
Hit both.
The direction of his arm is relevant as it’s not the body’s natural silhouette.
I don’t agree with the rule, but under it it’s a pen.
Daisuk
Nayim
54 seconds into this, you can see it first hitting his chest, then hitting his wrist (or thereabouts). It's harsh, but yeah ...
http://yfl.veuclips.com/player/html/rlMvlrXpmB?popup=yes&autoplay=1
http://yfl.veuclips.com/player/html/rlMvlrXpmB?popup=yes&autoplay=1
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Oh, and Peter Walton, BTs pet ref, has he ever said any decision is a spurs game should have went our way?
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
This post from Reddit sums up some of my feelings pretty well, particularly after watching the footage above:
"fudge every last person who says the players don't care or didn't try.
This video shows the empathy that professionals have for each other. Think rival fans are often too mean-spirited to each other and to the players... I'm certainly guilty of it. Don't think we understand what is truly put into it, but you see the players always backing each other.
Klopp knows exactly how they all feel because he's felt it himself...he's definitely one of the good ones. It was good to see him come over to Son."
Legohamster
Ian Walker
I don’t think anyone has said they don’t care/try
People are saying they didn’t show up which is a big difference.
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
Read back through this thread. I've seen several claim we didn't try or care.
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
In addition it that, how did we not show up? We basically controlled the game for the majority and were one clinical finish away from taking it to extra time. How is that not showing up?
Legohamster
Ian Walker
Trippier losing his man after 30 seconds isn’t the best start.
Liverpool where happy to let us have the ball in the midfield as we didn’t create anything and the backwards/sideways passing wasn’t hurting them.
Front three really created next to nothing, if anything - nowhere near what they are capable of doing.
nayenezgani
Jimmy Neighbour
16 shots, 8 on target. 8 saves from Allison. How is that next to nothing? Get some perspective.
Legohamster
Ian Walker
My perspective is fine.
How many of those saves where at 1-0 and actually anything more than a catch.
Do you think the front 3 showed up and played to the top of their game?
Daisuk
Nayim
Yeah, you also have to take into consideration that they are on of the best defensive teams in the country/world, and them going 1-0 that early and basically just having to defend for the remainder of the game didn't exactly help our cause. They made it very difficult for us going forward, but as you say, we still had 8 shots on target - and even won the xG (if you take away the pen). A bit more rub of the green for us, and it's a different game - the pen right at the beginning was a massive blow for our game.
Baleforce
Les Bennett
They were all easy saves though, straight at him, story of our season.
The one good opportunity we had in the box fell to Moura and he scuffed it straight to the keeper.
Eriksen worked a great opening outside the box in the first half only to fudge it up and clear the lower tier.
Both of those chances need to be taken in CL finals.
Legohamster
Ian Walker
The 3 biggest chances we had happened when we countered with speed - the 3-3 in the first half which ended with the over hit pass
The 4-3 which ended with us passing the wrong way to Winks
Another 4-3 which ended with Allis chip shot.