*** OMT roosters Vs Magpies ***

[paxtonwolf]

Whats he say?

Full interview in post #711

 

[MKSpur]

This.

Depends on how long he is out. In terns of league games we only have one in the next 19 days, and that's United where he probably would not see much of the ball anyway, based on our last 2 visits.
He will be a massive loss in the other 2 comps though

Clutching at positives maybe a chance for Bergwijn to regain some confidence, I feel we lack directness without Sonny and too many players reluctant to drop a shoulder and shoot and pass the ball on which allows defences to get set - hopefully something Bale will do address.

 

[milo]

David Elleray is responsible for the change in handball rule, if you're looking for someone to blame

 

[Hotshot-Tottenham]

That’s a bigger scandal than the penalty.

Imagine having been at that game if fans were able to be there. Three minute stoppage; no idea what is going on; home having dropped two points.

They are killing the game.

Also, the ref shorted us by about 3 minutes in the time added on after the pen.

 

[milo]

The rule doesn’t say anything about proximity then?

IFAB — Handling the ball
It is an offence if a player touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
— their hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
— their hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level
The above offences apply even if a ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

 

[StephenH]

Stop kidding ourselves, we lost today win because we were wasteful In front of goal!
Yes this new rule is dreadful but we were sluggish in the second half especially in front of goal!

@milo Lucas

 

[Hotshot-Tottenham]

One way of solving this is, if they want to retain this ridiculous rule, is to give an indirect free kick in the instance of accidentally handball.

Yes, that would be a good compromise, and free kicks inside the box are always fun to watch.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

IFAB — Handling the ball
It is an offence if a player touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
— their hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
— their hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level
The above offences apply even if a ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

You sure about the latter bit?
When I checked last week it didn’t count if in close proximity and I posted the rules on here that confirmed that. I got that off the FA website

 

[milo]

Stop kidding ourselves, we lost today win because we were wasteful In front of goal!
Yes this new rule is dreadful but we were sluggish in the second half especially in front of goal!

It should have mattered as much as the stupid penalty that Southampton got last week

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

They are trying to do the wrong thing 'righter'. You see this all the time in organisations and management. The right this is simple, the video ref should look for big obvious mistakes, and let the ref know. That was the intention, but without knowing it, the management has evolved VAR to be a bit of a monster with video refs looking for any contact at all with an arm in the box.

we dont have a clapping emoji anymore

 

[StephenH]

IFAB — Handling the ball
It is an offence if a player touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
— their hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
— their hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level
The above offences apply even if a ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.

shame there are no crowds to protest this rule by staying away or whatever!

 

[milo]

You sure about the latter bit?
When I checked last week it didn’t count if in close proximity and I posted the rules on here that confirmed that. I got that off the FA website

I copied it from the Athletic, the last sentence could be comment but it is certainly how it is being applied in England

 

[Dr Rosenrosen]

Has it been confirmed whether Kane got that post-match red card? 3 match ban?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I copied it from the Athletic, the last sentence could be comment but it is certainly how it is being applied in England

Don’t disagree it’s how it’s being applied but I believe it’s being applied incorrectly
Ill see if I can find it again as I made that post last week when we played Southampton

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Has it been confirmed whether Kane got that post-match red card? 3 match ban?

It was the keeper coach

 

[StephenH]

It should have mattered as much as the stupid penalty that Southampton got last week

Not understanding you here!
Matters more today as we lost points and that just from a Spurs pointS perspective.
The rule is just wrong.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I copied it from the Athletic, the last sentence could be comment but it is certainly how it is being applied in England

Here you go

 

[parklane1]

Stop kidding ourselves, we lost today win because we were wasteful In front of goal!
Yes this new rule is dreadful but we were sluggish in the second half especially in front of goal!

@milo Lucas

Without a doubt you are spot on and we should have buried them, but the reason we lost 2 points is VAR and yet another stupid decision.

 

[milo]

Don’t disagree it’s how it’s being applied but I believe it’s being applied incorrectly
Ill see if I can find it again as I made that post last week when we played Southampton

I'm trying to think of a penalty given like this in Germany or France this season. I can't remember one in games that I've watched.

 

[Mulletperm]

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