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harr1984 said:
Personally I would have kept Ange on, but understood why they sacked him. However - to win a European trophy, get back in the Champions League and looking to kick on and say Thomas Frank is the man just showed to me how clueless the decision makers are at the club.

Personally I'd take Sherwood, for some weird reason gets a lot of hate despite having a really good win percentage as an interim manager. Would back him over Tudor all day long.....
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Yes it was a tough decision and an understandable sacking, but yeah, we completely bungled the appointment, then didn't rectify that until it was way too late - after an utterly gormless January window.

Levy had plenty of faults but you have to question whether he would have allowed Frank to limp on through January, selling Johnson without a replacement.
 
Dunno if anyone else copped it at the stadium last night but on the screens in the concourses they flashed “Spurs Stats” up on screen. I stopped to see what they’d put up. You’d think we were challenging for the title with what they put up. All about our record v Palace and that we’re usually good in March.

I know you’ve to try and stay positive but it’s deluded stuff. It reminds me of work where everyone is super positive and “excited” about every fudging thing.

It’s like the club won’t acknowledge how much in the brick we are publicly. The season ticket announcement, the leaking of us tearing up the wage structure, the absolute refusal of Thomas Frank towards the end to mention the R word. They are talking and acting like there is no doubt we’ll be a Premier League club next season.

That might work in a corporate environment. It doesn’t work with football fans.

Just a small thing but another one of the thousand cuts we’re dying by.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Dunno if anyone else copped it at the stadium last night but on the screens in the concourses they flashed “Spurs Stats” up on screen. I stopped to see what they’d put up. You’d think we were challenging for the title with what they put up. All about our record v Palace and that we’re usually good in March.

I know you’ve to try and stay positive but it’s deluded stuff. It reminds me of work where everyone is super positive and “excited” about every fudging thing.

It’s like the club won’t acknowledge how much in the brick we are publicly. The season ticket announcement, the leaking of us tearing up the wage structure, the absolute refusal of Thomas Frank towards the end to mention the R word. They are talking and acting like there is no doubt we’ll be a Premier League club next season.

That might work in a corporate environment. It doesn’t work with football fans.

Just a small thing but another one of the thousand cuts we’re dying by.
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Their delusion is amazing or they think they are better at gaslighting than they actually are.
Either way. By the time they "realize" we will be playing QPR and their pockets that little bit lighter
 
Only got to watch the last 15 minutes for some reasons. Just caught the score at 1-1 with us having VdV sent off earlier.

How did we play up until the red card?

Very difficult to see how we turn this around, but will continue to hold some hope at least.
 
braineclipse said:
Only got to watch the last 15 minutes for some reasons. Just caught the score at 1-1 with us having VdV sent off earlier.

How did we play up until the red card?

Very difficult to see how we turn this around, but will continue to hold some hope at least.
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It wasn’t great. We started horribly conceding a good chance within a minute or two. We never really controlled the game and we looked second best to me. Got away with one when they had a goal disallowed for a marginal offside, scored but then the wheels came off in spectacular fashion.

Not much to offer hope to be honest even before the sending off.
 
harr1984 said:
Personally I would have kept Ange on, but understood why they sacked him. However - to win a European trophy, get back in the Champions League and looking to kick on and say Thomas Frank is the man just showed to me how clueless the decision makers are at the club.

Personally I'd take Sherwood, for some weird reason gets a lot of hate despite having a really good win percentage as an interim manager. Would back him over Tudor all day long.....
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Utterly bizarrely, I wouldn’t say no to Sherwood, maybe with Hoddle alongside him.

I cant stand Tactics Tim; he is in my top 3 least favourite Spurs managers of all time. However, it’s obvious we don’t have the quality to get out of this mess and it’s going to be about fight and passion. It needs someone now with a connection to the club and who might be able to find something in the hearts of a few of these cowards.

I can see him perhaps bringing a brickload of fight and a short-term uplift, with a steadier head like Hoddle as a counter-balance to steady things.

There are over two months left, almost a quarter of the season. Someone can still possibly make enough of a difference to scrape 8 or 9 points.

I can’t actually believe I’m even suggesting this, but it’s a measure of how desperate things are, I suppose.

One thing’s for sure after last night - Tudor ain’t going to do it.
 
Kandi1977 said:
Well, it's a good thing we got rid of Levy, who held us back and was the sole reason for us being brick, and only being in the top 5-6 for 15 years straight....
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He’s been gone five minutes. This is on him as much as anyone.
Might of sacked Frank quicker that’s it.

Him and and ENIC are at the head of our demise. Sold the clubs soul to move into the entertainment dome.

So much talk of if we still had Levy or Ange etc. We’ve been on the slide for a long long time.
 
Mikey10 said:
Utterly bizarrely, I wouldn’t say no to Sherwood, maybe with Hoddle alongside him.

I cant stand Tactics Tim; he is in my top 3 least favourite Spurs managers of all time. However, it’s obvious we don’t have the quality to get out of this mess and it’s going to be about fight and passion. It needs someone now with a connection to the club and who might be able to find something in the hearts of a few of these cowards.

I can see him perhaps bringing a brickload of fight and a short-term uplift, with a steadier head like Hoddle as a counter-balance to steady things.

There are over two months left, almost a quarter of the season. Someone can still possibly make enough of a difference to scrape 8 or 9 points.

I can’t actually believe I’m even suggesting this, but it’s a measure of how desperate things are, I suppose.

One thing’s for sure after last night - Tudor ain’t going to do it.
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Think if you bring Tactics Tim with an older head, it has to be Redknapp. Hoddle is a brilliant football mind, can’t see that him and Sherwood would be aligned in their approach.
 
djp82 said:
He’s been gone five minutes. This is on him as much as anyone.
Might of sacked Frank quicker that’s it.

Him and and ENIC are at the head of our demise. Sold the clubs soul to move into the entertainment dome.

So much talk of if we still had Levy or Ange etc. We’ve been on the slide for a long long time.
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Some people find it hard to accept reality, don’t they? The footballing equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome.
 
Mikey10 said:
Utterly bizarrely, I wouldn’t say no to Sherwood, maybe with Hoddle alongside him.

I cant stand Tactics Tim; he is in my top 3 least favourite Spurs managers of all time. However, it’s obvious we don’t have the quality to get out of this mess and it’s going to be about fight and passion. It needs someone now with a connection to the club and who might be able to find something in the hearts of a few of these cowards.

I can see him perhaps bringing a brickload of fight and a short-term uplift, with a steadier head like Hoddle as a counter-balance to steady things.

There are over two months left, almost a quarter of the season. Someone can still possibly make enough of a difference to scrape 8 or 9 points.

I can’t actually believe I’m even suggesting this, but it’s a measure of how desperate things are, I suppose.

One thing’s for sure after last night - Tudor ain’t going to do it.
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I dont think anyone can instill fight in this lot. Like Tels effort. Rich. Rom (his anger will get himself sent off again, so cant rely on that). Pauly. Thats about it. That along with lack of talent and gameplay and injuries and lack of confidence. I see nobody switching this around in 8 games
 
What a dreadful night, and time for this great club. I hope the owners got a big dent in their match day takings with everyone leaving at half time, as I sense that is the only thing that actually gets the message over.

Levy's sacking has left us faceless, rudderless, and the likes of Vinai and Lange don't look like they are up to the job of running the club.

Paratici called it I'm afraid.

We are now going to need luck to survive this, and based on what I am seeing we don't have much of that.
 
Mikey10 said:
Some people find it hard to accept reality, don’t they? The footballing equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome.
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I know , the Ange stuff I’ve seen this morning on X is crazy. He was rightly sacked.

We are a mess. We have some seriously average footballers in this squad.

Frank was dealt a poor hand. To lose Kulu and Maddison for the season was massive two players that actually contribute. Goals and assists.

So people trying to compare Frank and Ange it’s disingenuous. Ange had far better tools at his disposal and still lost 22 in league.

I did not want Frank either was never going to work.

Reality is we have a poor squad. Not enough quality. You mix youth prospects with quality we don’t have that quality.

I’m rambling. Just angry. Need coffee.
 
I'm sad more than anything else. Just when it felt like we had finally turned a corner, we blew it - again. So many things have gone wrong this season that the head says it can only end one way, but the heart still hopes for a miracle.

It feels like one of these car crashes you see coming a mile away, but you're powerless to avoid anyway.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Dunno if anyone else copped it at the stadium last night but on the screens in the concourses they flashed “Spurs Stats” up on screen. I stopped to see what they’d put up. You’d think we were challenging for the title with what they put up. All about our record v Palace and that we’re usually good in March.

I know you’ve to try and stay positive but it’s deluded stuff. It reminds me of work where everyone is super positive and “excited” about every fudging thing.

It’s like the club won’t acknowledge how much in the brick we are publicly. The season ticket announcement, the leaking of us tearing up the wage structure, the absolute refusal of Thomas Frank towards the end to mention the R word. They are talking and acting like there is no doubt we’ll be a Premier League club next season.

That might work in a corporate environment. It doesn’t work with football fans.

Just a small thing but another one of the thousand cuts we’re dying by.
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Yes saw that too! This was my first PL game at the new stadium and I hated the sanitised feel of it like not replaying their goals on the big screen but only ours as if somehow we can’t take it. And no highlights at HT, I’m positive that used to happen at WHL

Walking out the stadium was the first time I genuinely feel we’re doomed but realistically I know the games against forest and Leeds are the ones we have to win
 
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