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Eidur Gudjohnsen
I think we should get this LVG guy in......what have we got to lose...more than what we allready have?
not too much!
not too much!
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Next Spurs Manager v.2
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DHSF
Les Ferdinand
I mentioned him in a thread over on the other football side... I think he will prove to be an excellent Manager in future (he is one now). Too soon though for a big big job. Needs to prove it in the top league like Martinez did.
Raoul Duke
Gordon Durie
Rösler would alienate a lot of our players, I followed him quite a bit in the Norwegian league...
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
He doesn't approve of ketchup, does he? 
SUIYHA
Scott Parker
As we're playing Fulham today...Felix Magath anyone?
Our players didn't exactly like Ramos' strict fitness regime though, but I guess it's an entirely new squad now apart from Dawson...
- Took Stuttgart from relegation strugglers into Bundesliga runners up and beat Man Utd on the way to qualifying for the Champions League knockout stages
- Has managed a big club, and was successful too - he won the league and cup double with Bayern Munich twice in a row
- Took over at Wolfsburg who had been relegation strugglers for the previous few years - instantly led them to a top 5 finish in his first season and won the league with them for the first time in their history in his second
- In his first job outside of Germany, he's taken as many points from his 8 games with Fulham as Jol or Meulensteen did from their 13 in charge this season. They looked dead and buried when he took over, now they've got a good chance of staying up
- Highly decorated as a player - winning the Bundesliga and the European Cup, as well being successful at international level, winning Euro 1980 and reaching the World Cup final twice.
Our players didn't exactly like Ramos' strict fitness regime though, but I guess it's an entirely new squad now apart from Dawson...
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Haha you think the players are getting tetchy after a bit of stick from Sherwood wait until Magath gets hold of them. Far too early to judge his Fulham experience.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
Was that not a while ago? I didnt even know he managed in the Norwegian league. Perhaps he has learnt lessons etc
What I've read from his time at Brentford has all been good, not that it was a big issue in Norway. His ****ty demeanour on camera seems to have improved as well, but with the quality of football in the Norwegian top flight, who wouldn't rather be anywhere else.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
It will be interesting to see his progress in the next year or two. Think he will go to somewhere like Norwich, Swansea or Fulham in future
Cochise
Steve Carr
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/vid...272366/the-fantasy-football-club-glenn-hoddle
Interesting to hear this. Hoddle says he told Levy back in December that he would've taken the job for 6 months and had a review at the end of the season. Obviously Levy felt that Sherwood was ready for the hot seat because I can't imagine it being easy to decline that sort of offer.
Interesting to hear this. Hoddle says he told Levy back in December that he would've taken the job for 6 months and had a review at the end of the season. Obviously Levy felt that Sherwood was ready for the hot seat because I can't imagine it being easy to decline that sort of offer.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Or Levy didn't want to have to trip over "healing crystals" in the physio room and suffer through homeopathic tea additives every tuesday morning to initiate the weekly colon clensing or whatever madness it was Hoddle believed in.
SpurMeUp
Gary Stevens
I like him too. But the purpose of this post is to say: Felix Magath = PENFOLD Danger mouse!
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Well Capello = Postman Pat, so maybe all managers have a secret likeness to cartoon characters...well those whose alter ego we're yet to expose
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Moyes isn't worse than Sherwood.
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
After Manure's defeat today you've got to worry whether that will be the straw that breaks he camels's back in terms of David Moist keeping his job:
- First time since 1969-70 that Everton have done the double over Manure (on DM's watch)
- Effectively turned Manure (the champions) into 7th best team, much like Everton mostly were under DM
- his replacement challenging for a top 4 place AND playing more expansive/exciting/effective football
If he had won the game today then perhaps he would have been able to play the 'i need time' card. I suspect he will be gone in the summer now and they will be competing directly with us for a new manager
- First time since 1969-70 that Everton have done the double over Manure (on DM's watch)
- Effectively turned Manure (the champions) into 7th best team, much like Everton mostly were under DM
- his replacement challenging for a top 4 place AND playing more expansive/exciting/effective football
If he had won the game today then perhaps he would have been able to play the 'i need time' card. I suspect he will be gone in the summer now and they will be competing directly with us for a new manager
Cochise
Steve Carr
Things that may work for Moyes
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1) He has a 6 year contract and cutting it short with five years to go could be costly. However how would it work if the sacked him and he got a new job within 6 months?? Does he then wave his right to the rest of his money?
2) Ferguson and Charlton. Much is made of the power that these two supposedly wield and the fact that Moyes was the man chosen by these two. If these two are still supporting him behind the scenes then its reasonable to believe that they have the ears of the directors. If Sir Alex told the board that he had left Moyes with a **** squad then maybe they would believe him.
3) Whilst sections of the media want him gone, there are still quite a few outlets that are supportive of him. A lot of them are piling the blame at the players feet. Their recent form over the last few weeks has been decent too and the games against Munich served as a relief for Moyes.
4) The players. Scholes was the heartbeat of their team and he's gone and the other big voice in that squad Giggs is verging on retirement. Carrick, Ferdinand, Evra and Vidic are all another year past their prime whilst RVP and Rooney have barely played together since the turn of the year. This squad has looked ripe for the taking in the last two years but the Fergie factor kept them going. Lets face it, after Fergie announced his retirment last year their form faltered. There was always going to be a major squad rebuild coming, it just so happens that Fergie left just before it was needed.
5) "Fergie didn't win a title for years...blah blah blah". This line isn't reeled out all that often these days but earlier on this season the fans acted as if Moyes was gonna be given all the time in the world. They had patience in abundance and the club acted as if they were a cut above the rest. Do the club now go back on that and kneejerk like all the others that they claim to be better than?
6) I actually think Fergie would rather manage than see someone like LVG take hold of the club and build his own legacy. Maybe I'm wrong but that side of things just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
7) No Europa League. Moyes could spin this to look like a positive, given how Liverpool have done this year.
On the other hand
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1) Most of the plastic manc's I know want him gone because they aren't winning the league anymore. Strangely enough the ones I do know think that he should have them playing with two pacy wingers in a 442, something which he tried with little success. They identify this as the Man UTD brand of football and don't like the tiki taka style which is a bit stupid given that their best two players of late (Mata and Kagawa) suit that system.
2) Man UTD will need to spend this summer regardless. Do they leave the spending in the hands of one of the worlds best managers or do they leave it with Moyes. Simply put do the board trust him to make the right signings or not. We could argue that they need more purchases than we do so next year will be a slow start anyway. A slow start with Moyes is likely gonna be fatal, but a slow start with someone else will be forgiven (only just mind).
3) No CL football. Commercially they can take the hit, but as a brand I think they can only afford to be out of the top competition for a couple of years. Once again it's a question of whether or not they trust him to deliver.
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1) He has a 6 year contract and cutting it short with five years to go could be costly. However how would it work if the sacked him and he got a new job within 6 months?? Does he then wave his right to the rest of his money?
2) Ferguson and Charlton. Much is made of the power that these two supposedly wield and the fact that Moyes was the man chosen by these two. If these two are still supporting him behind the scenes then its reasonable to believe that they have the ears of the directors. If Sir Alex told the board that he had left Moyes with a **** squad then maybe they would believe him.
3) Whilst sections of the media want him gone, there are still quite a few outlets that are supportive of him. A lot of them are piling the blame at the players feet. Their recent form over the last few weeks has been decent too and the games against Munich served as a relief for Moyes.
4) The players. Scholes was the heartbeat of their team and he's gone and the other big voice in that squad Giggs is verging on retirement. Carrick, Ferdinand, Evra and Vidic are all another year past their prime whilst RVP and Rooney have barely played together since the turn of the year. This squad has looked ripe for the taking in the last two years but the Fergie factor kept them going. Lets face it, after Fergie announced his retirment last year their form faltered. There was always going to be a major squad rebuild coming, it just so happens that Fergie left just before it was needed.
5) "Fergie didn't win a title for years...blah blah blah". This line isn't reeled out all that often these days but earlier on this season the fans acted as if Moyes was gonna be given all the time in the world. They had patience in abundance and the club acted as if they were a cut above the rest. Do the club now go back on that and kneejerk like all the others that they claim to be better than?
6) I actually think Fergie would rather manage than see someone like LVG take hold of the club and build his own legacy. Maybe I'm wrong but that side of things just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
7) No Europa League. Moyes could spin this to look like a positive, given how Liverpool have done this year.
On the other hand
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1) Most of the plastic manc's I know want him gone because they aren't winning the league anymore. Strangely enough the ones I do know think that he should have them playing with two pacy wingers in a 442, something which he tried with little success. They identify this as the Man UTD brand of football and don't like the tiki taka style which is a bit stupid given that their best two players of late (Mata and Kagawa) suit that system.
2) Man UTD will need to spend this summer regardless. Do they leave the spending in the hands of one of the worlds best managers or do they leave it with Moyes. Simply put do the board trust him to make the right signings or not. We could argue that they need more purchases than we do so next year will be a slow start anyway. A slow start with Moyes is likely gonna be fatal, but a slow start with someone else will be forgiven (only just mind).
3) No CL football. Commercially they can take the hit, but as a brand I think they can only afford to be out of the top competition for a couple of years. Once again it's a question of whether or not they trust him to deliver.
If we can't get a LVG or someone of that calibre I'd be inclined to stick with him and see what he can do with his own players on board. You can't say he hasn't done at least a decent job and in normal circumstances wouldn't be sacked after a few months in charge for getting us where we are....