Next Spurs manager mega-thread

[Gordinho]

My mate, who is a season ticket holder of 6 years, wants Alan Curbishley!!

Ah, the old season ticket argument! The fact you're a season ticket holder does not mean you talk any less gonads than anyone else, it just seems to add an air of legitimacy to the gonads you talk. And yes, I include myself in that statement. Still, I picked up from your post what Milo confirmed

Your mate is an idiot

 

[billyiddo]

That one person is either good enough or not. But if we have 20 managers to choose from, 10 are proven and 10 are unproven I think a higher number of the proven managers would make it than the unproven managers. Because of the proven managers there might once have been another 10 that got a chance, but were already proven to be not good enough. That makes it more likely for us that a proven manager will succeed.

if we're talking 10 random managers with a good record versus 10 random managers with a short time in the game or with little record to speak of then of course those with a good record would most likely be the more successful with us. but if we were to take the highest prospect managers from the lower leagues or from clubs a tier or two below that of the Champions League i reckon they would have just as good a chance of success.

i think there are plenty of managers out there who could do the job in this country who never get the chance because the top clubs are not prepared to take a risk and would rather go for an easy appointment. im not too clued up on foreign football but i get the impression this is less of a case on the continent and probably why (it appears) top level English managers are few and far between - do you think that is because they aren't as good as their peers abroad? because i think that its more down to the lack of opportunity

 

[braineclipse]

if we're talking 10 random managers with a good record versus 10 random managers with a short time in the game or with little record to speak of then of course those with a good record would most likely be the more successful with us. but if we were to take the highest prospect managers from the lower leagues or from clubs a tier or two below that of the Champions League i reckon they would have just as good a chance of success.

i think there are plenty of managers out there who could do the job in this country who never get the chance because the top clubs are not prepared to take a risk and would rather go for an easy appointment. im not too clued up on foreign football but i get the impression this is less of a case on the continent and probably why (it appears) top level English managers are few and far between - do you think that is because they aren't as good as their peers abroad? because i think that its more down to the lack of opportunity

I'm not talking about 10 random managers. I'm talking about the 10 best we could find in each category. For me it just seems obvious that those that have more experience at a higher level will be more likely to succeed on average. A lot of managers look promising at a young age and 1-2 years in the game, only to later be proven not good enough. Those that have proven themselves over time are less likely to be in that category.

I think top level managers from any country are few and far between. There aren't tons of top jobs available in Spain, Germany or Italy either and plenty of foreigners also vying for and getting those jobs.

 

[Howard Webb]

Id say chris hughton if i had to pick a championship level coach who needs a crack

 

[Wriggly]

Has Rodgers signed yet ?

 

[Bale]

Mancini is way better than Jammie Dodgers.

 

[indianspur]

Has Rodgers signed yet ?

soon, not long to go now

 

[Bale]

Am I the only one that doesn't want Rodgers?

passing the ball sideways for 70mins and then being picked off on the counter doesn't sound ideal.

 

[indianspur]

the only problem is that when Rodgers does arrive, i wonder what our new nickname will be. Its easy to play with Swansea and call them Swansealona, but with Tottenham Hotspur its not so simple

oh wait a minute, ive got it........ Spursalona.....triffic

 

[Spursalot]

Am I the only one that doesn't want Rodgers?

passing the ball sideways for 70mins and then being picked off on the counter doesn't sound ideal.

Being silly and stating what wouldn't happen also is not ideal.


Do you not think bale, modric, vdv, ade would perform much better than the swansea players with that kind of possession?

 

[indianspur]

Am I the only one that doesn't want Rodgers?

passing the ball sideways for 70mins and then being picked off on the counter doesn't sound ideal.

if only Rodgers was in charge way back when we had Vinny Sideways.....match made in heaven

 

[indianspur]

Being silly and stating what wouldn't happen also is not ideal.


Do you not think bale, modric, vdv, ade would perform much better than the swansea players with that kind of possession?

and Rossi to finish off the chances

exactly, the ingredients available at Spurs are of a much high quality than at Swansea. I reckon Rodgers would cook up a storm at WHL

 

[SUIYHA]

No Paul Lambert thread?

Might as well start one then.

For all the speculation about Rodgers being our next manager, I think Lambert would be a better choice tbh. Granted, the football isn't as pretty, but he's more experienced and is doing a better job with Norwich. Rodgers hasn't even had two seasons at Swansea, and in spite of the good football there is still an outside chance that they could go down. Lambert on the other hand took over Norwich in the relegation zone of League One, got them promoted twice in successive seasons and now has the club sitting in the top half, level on points with Liverpool.

As a player, he has won numerous SPL titles but most notably, has won the Champions League. He took his coaching badges in Germany instead of England because he wanted to learn a different style of doing things, and it's been well documented about what a good tactician he has been this season. This article is a great read and insight into the way he works:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/13/paul-lambert-norwich-swansea

I've also been very impressed by the levels of motivation and never say die attitude from his players. Can you imagine what would have happened if we'd been 1-0 up at Old Trafford for example, had a clear penalty denied and then the opposition went right down the other end and scored? We'd have crumbled. But they kept their heads up, continued to dominate the game, and even after missing an absolute sitter in the second half which would also probably have broken our spirit, they kept pushing until they got a deserved winner.

Any takers on our side?

 

[ArcspacE]

Posted this earlier

People (being influenced by various factors) always go off about Swansea and their mighty PL campaign but in my opinion Norwich have done a much better job this season and look set to finish a good few points above Rogers and his 'endless 3 yard side-ways passes leading to absolutely fudge all' clique

Lambert has achieved 2 consecutive promotions with a largerly unfancied team and was safe from relegation nearly 10 games before season end - impressive stuff from a very inderrated manager imv. Not to mention he's transformed Grant Holt into the second highest scoring English striker this season - a player who's spent most of his career 2-3 divisions below us, completely owned King and if continues his good form might have an outside shout for Euro 2012. At least the commentators on Matchday Live felt so.

 

[funster]

Norwich were an absolute shambles when Lambert took over. Bryan Gunn's spell in charge was laughable, and their previous two bosses before that didn't exactly do great for them either - Roeder was one of them, wasn't he? Lambert's Colchester absolutely walloped them at Carrow Road - can't remember the score but it was something daft like six or seven. As the away side! Look at them since he's taken over. Very decent job indeed.

 

[DanishWhite]

I don't care how good he is.

Did he get rid of Gary Doherty ? If he did, he deserves to be put down like a limping horse.

Ended.

 

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

7-1 iirc, they promptly sacked Gunn and signed Lambert!

Lambert has done a fabulous job, and deserves a great deal of respect. He doesnt have one player people would fancy in our side and yet he has many that have out performed our stars over recent months.

Norwich are well organised and show an excellent attitude to their game. I like watching them.

Of the two I do prefer Rodgers, but thats soley down to playing style - I cant help thinking with better players Rodgers would have a team playing sensational stuff.

Take nothing away from Lambert though, he is up for manager of the season for me (along with Fergie, Pardew and Rodgers)

 

[a spur from swansea]

Not exactly,they didn't pull any trees when we played them in december,then we took them apart quite easily. Watched the game live yesterday via a norweigian stream so had to watch the game with no commentary,what i made of it was that he likes his sides play the long ball down the sides,holt and his mate pressure the back four and we conceed throw ins near the corner flag,any sort of football they played came via any break outs they had. They didnt exactly pass the ball around us.
I watched holt last year in the championship,he's a very clever player,what he does if they are losing or on the attack in the last ten minutes(though he gets subbed quite reguarly now after the 70 min mark)he plays for the free kicks either falls down or pretends to gets pushed either around the box, or down by the touchline near the goal.....he did that quite reguarly last year.The number of goals they scored last year in the last 10 minutes was a record i think.

This year he mainly winds up the defender via holding them or pushing them around as kaboul found out yesterday ,he was doing the same down in swansea a couple of months ago.He's an ok centre forward but he'll get found out next year when players and refs suss him out.
Out of the two, both sides will never reach top 6, so I prefer to watch my football with a bit of skill and a bit of panache,with norwich its like watching football from the late eighties and nineties,nothing new and just using pressure and the percentage ball basically.

 

[tynesidespur]

Not exactly,they didn't pull any trees when we played them in december,then we took them apart quite easily. Watched the game live yesterday via a norweigian stream so had to watch the game with no commentary,what i made of it was that he likes his sides play the long ball down the sides,holt and his mate pressure the back four and we conceed throw ins near the corner flag,any sort of football they played came via any break outs they had. They didnt exactly pass the ball around us.
I watched holt last year in the championship,he's a very clever player,what he does if they are losing or on the attack in the last ten minutes(though he gets subbed quite reguarly now after the 70 min mark)he plays for the free kicks either falls down or pretends to gets pushed either around the box, or down by the touchline near the goal.....he did that quite reguarly last year.The number of goals they scored last year in the last 10 minutes was a record i think.

This year he mainly winds up the defender via holding them or pushing them around as kaboul found out yesterday ,he was doing the same down in swansea a couple of months ago.He's an ok centre forward but he'll get found out next year when players and refs suss him out.
Out of the two, both sides will never reach top 6, so I prefer to watch my football with a bit of skill and a bit of panache,with norwich its like watching football from the late eighties and nineties,nothing new and just using pressure and the percentage ball basically.

That's how I saw it yesterday as well. Nothing subtle to Norwich's game - play the ball into the channels and have the two strikers press the back four hard and compete for everything. And most importantly - compete for every 2nd ball. They won every 2nd ball in midfield so if it went for a throw, or if it bounced back off our centre-halves/their strikers they would have 2 or 3 men backing up play. That is basic league one stuff and we couldn't handle it. It says more about our disorganisation than anything positive about them. The only subtle part was pulling Pilkington in off the wing and into a sort of inside left position which caused Kyle Walker trouble.

I prefer not to watch basic stuff like that.

 

[DanishWhite]

@ Tynesidespur

Not a patch on Norwich, but EVERY team we played have been beating us for 2nd balls for several months running now.

Barcelona, Stoke, Spurs or South China Utd - no team can win football games without compete for 2nd balls.

Well, Spurs just don't.