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Next Manager?

Finney Is Back said:
Why would any manager worth his salt already have analysed our players? Managers of teams who played us last season would've done some analysis on us but most of the names linked with us haven't been in charge of teams who played against us.
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If there were a job available and I wanted it, I'd make sure I'd done my homework before applying.
 
scaramanga said:
If there were a job available and I wanted it, I'd make sure I'd done my homework before applying.
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agreed, anyone who has spent the time and effort building their profile will think very carefully about this when accepting a new contract, its not just all about the short term gain
 
NoLimits01 said:
agreed, anyone who has spent the time and effort building their profile will think very carefully about this when accepting a new contract, its not just all about the short term gain
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Depends, there is a big myth on this board that if a manager fails somewhere, their "shot" at big time is gone. Football managers fail ALL the time, the nature of the job is you will be fired (Ancelotti quote "I've been fired from every job I've ever had")

Doesn't mean you will take any job, but if the money is right, most managers will take a punt (Ancelotti at Everton was perfect example, £11M/yr, achieve fudge all, still go on to get Madrid role)

I genuinely think something like United is more of poisoned chalice than us, here the blame will go to club structure/ownership and you can point to Poch/Jose as other "top" managers who struggled here.
 
Raziel said:
Depends, there is a big myth on this board that if a manager fails somewhere, their "shot" at big time is gone. Football managers fail ALL the time, the nature of the job is you will be fired (Ancelotti quote "I've been fired from every job I've ever had")

Doesn't mean you will take any job, but if the money is right, most managers will take a punt (Ancelotti at Everton was perfect example, £11M/yr, achieve fudge all, still go on to get Madrid role)

I genuinely think something like United is more of poisoned chalice than us, here the blame will go to club structure/ownership and you can point to Poch/Jose as other "top" managers who struggled here.
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Yep, always said here was a free hit for Jose.
Goes wrong it's the clubs fault, goes right it was Jose.
 
thfcsteff said:
And you, in turn, should accept that some might point out you might be wrong to dismiss people as promptly as you sometimes do.

An interesting thing to remember on the "daily quota" thing is that the Pitt-Brooks and Golds of this world are very, very transparent about when they are making up the page space with cycling rumours versus laying down a specific set of things heard/fed. They are very different. Ornstein is also very credible.

As for those dismissing the lack of quotes, that will often happen to protect a source.

I think it is far too easy to write it all off as "journos trumping", fanciful even. Let's face it, been pretty quiet the past few days, proving that the feed can cease when necessary and the beat scribblers don't necessarily have to fill space daily.
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milo said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1406920184527409164
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There's Dan Kilpatrick's daily quota, basically rubbishing his (and others) previous daily quotas.
 
Raziel said:
Depends, there is a big myth on this board that if a manager fails somewhere, their "shot" at big time is gone. Football managers fail ALL the time, the nature of the job is you will be fired (Ancelotti quote "I've been fired from every job I've ever had")

Doesn't mean you will take any job, but if the money is right, most managers will take a punt (Ancelotti at Everton was perfect example, £11M/yr, achieve fudge all, still go on to get Madrid role)

I genuinely think something like United is more of poisoned chalice than us, here the blame will go to club structure/ownership and you can point to Poch/Jose as other "top" managers who struggled here.
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I think the key point here is "Doesn't mean you will take any job", I would argue that an established name (Ancelotti, Jose, Pep, Conti, etc..) can afford to take a few extra risks because their past achievements allows them that leeway, but I would have thought that an up and coming manager would be more circumspect, as he is still building his reputation, when choosing his next appointment.

But maybe not, maybe its silly to try and compare what happens in the football world to a similar scenario in the real world:rolleyes:
 
With the way social media is nowadays and the way people follow it and believe most things they read, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if our new manager has already been sorted and we have not actually spoken to any of the managers we were “close to signing”.
 
StephenH said:
Why?
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Because we've exhausted everyone else :) Think he'd be a decent appointment. Knows the league, isn't a name and is therefore doing well on merit. I have some reservations about his shyness (for want of a better way of expressing it). But I like his methodical approach. Players know where they stand, and will be clear on their jobs. For me, he is probably better than Ten Hag.
 
SpurMeUp said:
Because we've exhausted everyone else :) Think he'd be a decent appointment. Knows the league, isn't a name and is therefore doing well on merit. I have some reservations about his shyness (for want of a better way of expressing it). But I like his methodical approach. Players know where they stand, and will be clear on their jobs. For me, he is probably better than Ten Hag.
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Also has a 5 year contract with brighton.
 
Raziel said:
Depends, there is a big myth on this board that if a manager fails somewhere, their "shot" at big time is gone. Football managers fail ALL the time, the nature of the job is you will be fired (Ancelotti quote "I've been fired from every job I've ever had")

Doesn't mean you will take any job, but if the money is right, most managers will take a punt (Ancelotti at Everton was perfect example, £11M/yr, achieve fudge all, still go on to get Madrid role)

I genuinely think something like United is more of poisoned chalice than us, here the blame will go to club structure/ownership and you can point to Poch/Jose as other "top" managers who struggled here.
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Surely you’d agree that if a manager had ambitions to be fighting for the biggest prizes (versus already being there) then if we are indeed looking for someone who can work in tough circumstances for the next 1-2 years, it would attract a different level of manager than a club who can promise clearer backing? And as such the managers will make a pick based on their likelihood of success? Ancelotti is already proven.
 
scaramanga said:
Poch was a step backward to a manager of a provincial little club with no history of trophies at one point.
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But he was proven at the exact things we needed him to be (young players, attacking football, system) and had a reputation not just as someone good, but someone excellent at what he did. It was a really smart appointment and I was delighted with it at the time.

Fonseca and Gattuso don’t have anywhere near the same level of proven capability. The jury is still out on them, although Fonseca probably matched what we needed fairly well. He was the right style, as was Poch, but what put Poch over the edge was his sheer quality.
 
Ten hag for euro experience for me
SpurMeUp said:
Because we've exhausted everyone else :) Think he'd be a decent appointment. Knows the league, isn't a name and is therefore doing well on merit. I have some reservations about his shyness (for want of a better way of expressing it). But I like his methodical approach. Players know where they stand, and will be clear on their jobs. For me, he is probably better than Ten Hag.
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BrainOfLevy said:
Surely you’d agree that if a manager had ambitions to be fighting for the biggest prizes (versus already being there) then if we are indeed looking for someone who can work in tough circumstances for the next 1-2 years, it would attract a different level of manager than a club who can promise clearer backing? And as such the managers will make a pick based on their likelihood of success? Ancelotti is already proven.
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- Yes on first part
- Second part is absolutely people think about their CV when picking roles, but football is a unique career in that I really don't think a failure at a reasonable profile level matters. Add the money and the fact that today's flavor of the week is tomorrow's forgotten man, this myth of these up and coming managers carefully plotting their career and turning down all these gigs because it's not in line with their master strategy is BS (in my opinion of course).
 
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