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Next Manager?
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Diamond Lights
Alan Hutton
we signed a manager yet?
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Whomever it was that persuaded us to sack Jose before the cup final
I can only think that was the reason Jose wasn't kept to at least manage his last game in the cup final...
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Just picking up on this last point: you can have all the intention in the world during any discussions. However, tbf to @BrainOfLevy would it really take two weeks to ascertain that Conte and the way he works would be considered high risk/high cost by us?
I mean if we are to believe the media reports that talks between the club and Cont did last that long and did break down for reasons to do with not being able to meet his demands on transfer spend, would you not think it would take far less than two weeks to find that out?
I mean i'd imagine that would be an initial afternoon's chat's worth of time to come to that conclusion given what the club (and every man and his dog) knows about Conte and what he usually demands (plus what the club know about their own constraints)...
A few years ago I went for a job, found out they offered it to someone with more experience but the guy accepted an offer somewhere else. They came back to me and offered me the job, I still happily took it - was a better role, bigger company and more money. I don't envisage a football manager feeling any different....
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Bugger off mate, you're way too sensitive about anyone raising any questions about Levy and you're making it personal when that's not what I'm doing - either to Levy or to anyone here.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Not wrong though was i
you going to start moaning about folks trying to close you down again.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
This is exactly the point I was about to make.
No issue at all with us speaking to Conte at all. It would absolutely be the right thing to do - the club's line right now seems to be that we had to speak to him because he is top class and became available. Totally agree with that. What I don't understand is why it took a week or two for these very obvious things to come to the fore, while 'talks were progressing well' in the days before. What exactly were we discussing?
It doesn't make sense.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Not wrong though was i
The only person I've called out for doing that is you, because you make it personal with me. You call me out as some inflexible person with an agenda in replies to other people. I've tried to be as clear as possible; I don't hate Levy, I don't think he's evil, I am just calling out some very specific things.
Its pretty obvious that the length of time the media speculate about something doesnt equate to the amount of time spent on talks. The media dont pick up on talks happening until after the initial event has happened, and clearly continue to speculate until they hear either he's agreed to sign or its not happening. You seem to place way too much emphasis on the tit bits you've been hearing, but hey ho - you do your thing.....
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Sorry precious, last thing i wanted to do was hurt your feelings. Never said/hinted that you hate Levy but there have been a lot of different posters who have answered you posts about calling out on specific points and yet you still keep coming back with the same questions. Is that because you did not get the answers you wanted? You suggested earlier that you thought s ome were trying to shut you down, it was rubbish then and still is.
Pretty much covers it - going by the media coverage of these things you'd think all sides were locked in a 2 week boardroom meeting thrashing out the details and only taking time out to update their sources of the ins and outs of what's being discussed
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
I don't think it's ever been suggested that we were in talks with Conte for two weeks has it? Not being picky here, just that a 2 week conversation is a whole different thing to a few days, maybe a week. From memory (and not always good for me to rely on that these days!) I think it was about a week from when it was said we had first made contact, to it being reported both parties had walked away. Let's assume talks may have started within a couple of days of making contact, it's barely a week. Granted that's still a good while but we weren't speaking directly with Conte (again, going by reports) but to his 'team'. Maybe we were hearing enough to keep the back and forth going for a few days but in the end it just wasn't right for either party.
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
The media indeed can portray things that may be happening in the background at a football club differently to how things were actually happening (mainly for clicks etc).
However, that works both ways with Football Club's PR/Marketing too.
For example, who's to say the club weren't talking to Conte for 4 weeks instead of one or two?
However, that works both ways with Football Club's PR/Marketing too.
For example, who's to say the club weren't talking to Conte for 4 weeks instead of one or two?
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
As i said in my last message just posted, you can flip it the other way: who is to say that the club were in fact talking to Conte for 4 weeks?
Diamond Lights
Alan Hutton
"Conte's camp were disappointed that Tottenahm rejected him" - Fabrizio Romano to Chris Cowlin.
Fabrizio also claims there was a £3m difference between Spurs offer and Conte's request. Seems money isn't an issue to pay the salary of the highest paid chairman in the league though.
Fabrizio also claims there was a £3m difference between Spurs offer and Conte's request. Seems money isn't an issue to pay the salary of the highest paid chairman in the league though.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Right now we’re a club in a goldfish bowl
There is speculation, rumours and probably a lot of lies too all focussed on the club
We have the Kane situation
We have the manager situation
We have the finances
A new DOF
We’re a club that sells clicks
the daily mirror actually posed an article and talked about it on talkSPORT, about Kane wanting to leave. When asked to substantiate the article the guy literally said if we were wrong a lawyer would contact us, and everyone else is reporting it…
that’s the level of sporting media in this country. What they don’t know they can take some artistic licence to fill in gaps and get away with it. It’s quite poor but that’s the world we’re in now
There is speculation, rumours and probably a lot of lies too all focussed on the club
We have the Kane situation
We have the manager situation
We have the finances
A new DOF
We’re a club that sells clicks
the daily mirror actually posed an article and talked about it on talkSPORT, about Kane wanting to leave. When asked to substantiate the article the guy literally said if we were wrong a lawyer would contact us, and everyone else is reporting it…
that’s the level of sporting media in this country. What they don’t know they can take some artistic licence to fill in gaps and get away with it. It’s quite poor but that’s the world we’re in now
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
And part owner of the club. I mean he can take it as a salary or just take it …
How many others own part of the club?
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Unlikely to have been Conte given how it seems impossible to do anything in Italy without their media getting hold of it! Plus the club have said we spoke with him because he became available, which would be more recently.
But to your broader point about there being some kind of general agreement in place with someone pre Jose sacking which then backfired on Levy as that person upped their demands at the last minute - it doesn’t feel very plausible (to me) and I think we would have heard some rumblings to that effect. I guess it’s possible we had someone in mind e.g Nagelsmann, Rodgers, but I don’t think there’s anything to suggest we were that organised to already have someone lined up.