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New New Manager Poll (The Lets Get It Right This Time Edition)

Who Do You Want Then?

  • Poch

    Votes: 58 43.3%

  • Gallardo

    Votes: 7 5.2%

  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Enrique

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Carrick

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Kompany

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 23 17.2%

  • Tuchel

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 24 17.9%

  • Slot

    Votes: 17 12.7%
  • Total voters
    134
AdamB said:
Yes, my doubts were generally that I knew nothing about him (positive or negative) and that he's unproven in a major league.

I've read a few blogs/articles etc about him, browsed a Celtic forum and watched the game yesterday. Its clear that fans and players of his current and former teams hugely rate him, and also the football which he plays is where I think Spurs need to head in order to get some identity back and try to rebuild some excitement with the fans. The apathy from fans in recent months/years needs to be quashed with the next hire, so the type of football is imperative and he definitely ticks the box there. So all those are positives. His man management seems strong too - feels a bit like he's a 'Harry Redknapp plus some tactics'. A bit Martin Jol-like.

The 'unproven in a major league' is obviously impossible to argue against, and its rare that a decent manager doesnt manage in one of teh top leagues til they're 57...but then suddenly move to one of the richer teams in those bigger leagues. I can't actually think of a precedent at all and in finance/investment worlds where I spend my time the argument that 'this time is different' is usually laughed off as naive. It might seem harsh but I think if he were in his early 40s rather than 57 there would be greater clamour for him.

But all in all I think he's the right appointment for where we are. As above, I think with 3 additions we have a squad which he can use and I think he'll help our image and get some respectability back to us. It might actually help him that there is a degree of scepticism about his appointment as expectations might be lower. With those additions, I'd like to think that he stabilises us next season and we could finish 7th at worse (behind the other top 6 plus Saudi Sportswashing Machine) and perhaps without the burden of European football, we might be able to stay in the top 4 race until into Spring 2024 and also with the lighter workload, we can go full bore for the domestic cups too.

So yes, hopefully we'll tie him and a DoF up asap. I'm not sure where we go if he doesnt join either as I dont see an obvious alternative who plays attacking, exciting football...
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Thanks for taking the time to reply. I think that’s a great summary of it.
 
Recall Gordon Strachan. Successful in Scotland and perhaps with Southampton. I don't think he had good times in the Premier League as a manager.
 
AdamB said:
Reading about Ange's tactics and watching yesterday, the squad isn't as badly suited to his style/tactics as I thought. Winners and losers as always with a manager change, but the squad below would seem to fit his style with just 3 signings and making Lenglet permanent.

Priority would be weeding out those weaker on the ball this summer. I think this would work for next year whilst we only have 3 competitions and then could upgrade some (Dier, Winks etc) the year after when we're hopefully back in Europe:

GK: New keeper + FF
RB: Royal + Spence
LB: Udogie + Reggie
CBs: Romero, New LCB, Lenglet and probably Dier (given cash constraints)
DM: Skipp and Winks
no 8s (need 4+): Bentancur, Bisouma, New Signing, Sarr, Devine
Wide attackers (need 4): Son, Kulu, Gil, Porro
CFs: Kane, Richie

Losers would be: PEH, Sanchez, Davies, Sess, Davies (in addition to selling Tubby, GLC, Rodon etc)
Winners: Winks, Gil, Devine, Reggie (better ball players). Porro also a big winner as I think the wide forward role would be great for him

I know lots don't like Winks and he's not good enough to be a starter in a top 4 team, but the deep midfielder role in Ange's system would seem to suit him. I'd keep him for a year as back-up to Skipp and focus cash elsewhere
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He uses inverted full backs but you’ve probably chosen the two left backs least suited to playing that way?
 
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AjaxDeSuperYids said:
Will be interesting to see how this pans out with the new manager. Our squad is so unbelievably bloated with at least 10 players needing to be sold.

So lots of work to be done early doors in pre season training and possibly even before hand working out who goes and who stays.

The good news is we only really need to identify and sign three players for decent money, GK, CB and a playmaker type CM. And I think we already have a general idea of the players who will be targeted for those positions.
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The bad news is that we’ve not even got a DoF yet….
 
AjaxDeSuperYids said:
It could also be why there doesn’t seem to be a huge urgency getting a new DoF in or as is rumoured a head of recruitment.

Ange will let us know the 10 plus he doesn’t want and we all already know the 3 in we would like which Ange will likely approve.

So this head of recruitment role is probably more geared to identifying in future windows these sort of gems brighton find.
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How will he have any idea having not even had a day of training with them?
 
Gutter Boy said:
Potescoglou has been heavily linked with Leeds since about February. Kenny Dalglish was in the media trying to sell him the job a few weeks back
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Dalglish, a Celtic man through and through, was trying to sell the Celtic manager (who by the sounds of it is universally loved by everyone involved with the club) the Leeds job?

got the quotes or link?
 
Gutter Boy said:
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/leeds-united-ange-postecoglou-dalglish-26527418
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Er yeah, saying Leeds would be stupid not to want him doesn't equate to Dalglish trying to sell him the job:


'They’d be stupid not to ask him, but as someone said, it’s manners to wait until you’re asked. Even if he was asked, I don’t know if he would go," Dalglish told the Daily Record.

“Are you trying to say that Celtic isn’t as big an adventure as some of the clubs that were allegedly interested in him. Why would he go down to the Premier League to get relegated, or to one of the teams threatened with relegation? He’d rather be at Celtic looking to win trophies.
 
harr1984 said:
I hope our fans listen but I doubt it. Admittedly I'm not a season ticket holder, but when I do go I'm sick of many acting all entitled when things don't go our way and too often creating a horrible atmosphere. With the atmosphere too often at our place when things aren't going our way it doesn't matter who the players and a manager is we won't be successful.Whether it's Ange or someone else that arrives in the hot seat there will a good portion of fans who didn't want him, but I hope they would at least get behind the team as we try and create a new style of play and era - it would be of benefit to everyone. I wont hold my breath though....
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I’ve got plenty of doubts about Ange - but I’ll back him wholeheartedly if he’s appointed. I’d back anyone appointed.





Except Rodgers. :D
 
harr1984 said:
Er yeah, saying Leeds would be stupid not to want him doesn't equate to Dalglish trying to sell him the job:


'They’d be stupid not to ask him, but as someone said, it’s manners to wait until you’re asked. Even if he was asked, I don’t know if he would go," Dalglish told the Daily Record.

“Are you trying to say that Celtic isn’t as big an adventure as some of the clubs that were allegedly interested in him. Why would he go down to the Premier League to get relegated, or to one of the teams threatened with relegation? He’d rather be at Celtic looking to win trophies.
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Haha think Dalglish needs to work on his sales pitch.
 
Finney Is Back said:
How will he have any idea having not even had a day of training with them?
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Some decisions will have to be made based on conversations with people at the club and watching videos etc.

Otherwise Ange goes into early training sessions with an enormous number of players and then is expected to announce who he wants to cull after what 2-3 weeks?
 
Finney Is Back said:
He uses inverted full backs but you’ve probably chosen the two left backs least suited to playing that way?
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Fair point but more a process of elimination:
- Perisic would leave (too old, expensive and not a full back)
- Sess has looked well short of PL standard so far
- Davies isnt particularly mobile

Which leaves Udogie and Reggie
 
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