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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

scaramanga said:
I genuinely don't know how people could live any other way. Do people really go about their lives feeling that others are better than them?

I just assumed it was like driving where everyone assumes they're the best.
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Well how do I do this without sounding like I'm trying to be horrible....:D

I'm also a big believer of logic and facts Scara. So I'll do this for both of us so as not to appear too harsh.

Are either of us the richest men in the world? The fastest? The strongest? Are we the smartest? Am I the best doctor in the world/you the best businessman? Do we have the biggest houses? Are we the happiest? Do we have the best and most looking wives? Do we have the best friends? Are the most attractive men in the world? Are we the most desirable men in the world? Are we the most multi lingual? Have we made many inventions between us? Had a discernible impact on human history? Picked up many noble prizes between us?

I could go on but I'm sure you'll agree that men as important as us have more important things to be getting on with :D

We've even managed to fudge up choosing the team we support. I love Tottenham but there is nothing logical in following this team that breaks hearts more often than it provides overwhelming joy. We'd have been better off choosing the likes of Real or Man Utd... Or at least in more regular visits to the West End. As I'm sure you'd agree. ;)
 
AuroRaman said:
Do you believe one needs to have superiority to believe in oneself?


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It’s not so much superiority but it’s about believing that your the best at what you do, whether that’s a footballer, businessman, bin man, surgeon or a cleaner.

Believe in yourself and walk with your head held high because if you don’t this world with eat you up and spit you out.
 
SylDave said:
It’s not so much superiority but it’s about believing that your the best at what you do, whether that’s a footballer, businessman, bin man, surgeon or a cleaner.

Believe in yourself and walk with your head held high because if you don’t this world with eat you up and spit you out.
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I absolutely agree with this. There’s a difference between believing in yourself and superiority as you mentioned off the bat in your post.


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SylDave said:
It’s not so much superiority but it’s about believing that your the best at what you do, whether that’s a footballer, businessman, bin man, surgeon or a cleaner.

Believe in yourself and walk with your head held high because if you don’t this world with eat you up and spit you out.
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I think there is a difference and a happy medium.

For example, I think I am an exceptional doctor. My patients tend to agree, as do my colleagues and juniors. I spend a lot of time with my patients, explain things in detail and in ways they can understand. I'm knowledgeable and skilled at practical procedures. I'm polite and always cheery at work. I take every possible opportunity to teach and guide my juniors and medical students.

However, am I the best doctor in the world? Or even the best in my field? Objectively I can't say that I am. I'm sure there are doctors with better clinical acumen, with more experience. Doctors who are more skilled at clinical procedures. Some who will have an even better patient manner. Some who put even more into teaching.

Does that mean I'm a snivelling, nervous wreck? Of course not.

There's a difference between self confidence and delusional arrogance. I've seen far too many of the latter in important management positions because others can confuse it for actual ability.
 
Hootnow said:
Well how do I do this without sounding like I'm trying to be horrible....:D

I'm also a big believer of logic and facts Scara. So I'll do this for both of us so as not to appear too harsh.

Are either of us the richest men in the world? The fastest? The strongest? Are we the smartest? Am I the best doctor in the world/you the best businessman? Do we have the biggest houses? Are we the happiest? Do we have the best and most looking wives? Do we have the best friends? Are the most attractive men in the world? Are we the most desirable men in the world? Are we the most multi lingual? Have we made many inventions between us? Had a discernible impact on human history? Picked up many noble prizes between us?

I could go on but I'm sure you'll agree that men as important as us have more important things to be getting on with :D

We've even managed to fudge up choosing the team we support. I love Tottenham but there is nothing logical in following this team that breaks hearts more often than it provides overwhelming joy. We'd have been better off choosing the likes of Real or Man Utd... Or at least in more regular visits to the West End. As I'm sure you'd agree. ;)
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I'm sure there are some others better at some things.

As a whole though, they can't compare.
 
AuroRaman said:
That’s not superiority. That’s insecurity my friend. For example, HootNow tends to school you a fair bit on this forum, but has never shown superiority around it. Like some posters on here ;)


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@Hootnow is a very bright chap.

I believe (unless I'm confusing him with someone else) he's mentioned that he's religious though. That locks him out of the top 7% in itself.
 
scaramanga said:
I'm sure there are some others better at some things.

As a whole though, they can't compare.
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So you're a 7/10 steady eddy in all fields? That's not very exciting is it? :D

And not that it should make a difference to anyone or that I need to prove my intellect to anyone, whether in real life or online but no, I am not religious.

To link this all back to Poch, I think managing people has many aspects. I'd wager Poch is over achieving more in his job than either of the two of us are in ours. He was trying to find any little advantage he could, to make the players believe they could do anything, including beating a team who finished 26 points ahead of us and who we've managed to beat only once in the last 15 meetings now.

I don't exactly think the players have spent the last 3 weeks in yoga retreats and braiding each others hair.
 
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Hootnow said:
So you're a 7/10 steady eddy in all fields? That's not very exciting is it? :D

And not that it should make a difference to anyone or that I need to prove my intellect to anyone, whether in real life or online but no, I am not religious.

To link this all back to Poch, I think managing people has many aspects. I'd eager Poch is over achieving more in his job than either of the two of us are in ours. He was trying to find any little advantage he could, to make the players they could do anything, including beating a team who finished 26 points ahead of us and who we've managed to beat only once in the last 15 meetings now.

I don't exactly think the players have spent the last 3 weeks in yoga retreats and braiding each others hair.
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Poch absolutely is overachieving, there's a fantastic article on Statsbomb describing how he's managed to create a viable tactic to work around having no midfield at all since Dembele. It's incredible that he's managed what he has around Sissoko and a pile of sicknotes.

That doesn't mean he can't improve or that you or I can't see him making clear mistakes and point them out.
 
scaramanga said:
Poch absolutely is overachieving, there's a fantastic article on Statsbomb describing how he's managed to create a viable tactic to work around having no midfield at all since Dembele. It's incredible that he's managed what he has around Sissoko and a pile of sicknotes.

That doesn't mean he can't improve or that you or I can't see him making clear mistakes and point them out.
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Again, that's not what the article says.
 
fernadez said:
Again, that's not what the article says.
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In December of 2018, Mauricio Pochettino lost every semblance of the midfield he used to have. Mousa Dembele, once one of the strongest defenders and most technically gifted press resisters in soccer, was a shell of himself and was shipped off to China where he was able to dominate once again despite being 1.5 shells of himself. Eric Dier had appendicitis and a case of the being awfuls. Victor Wanyama was yet to play. Tottenham’s two true midfielders were a recently recovered and improving defensively Harry Winks and a no-longer awful Moussa Sissoko. Gone was Pochettino’s ability to play the 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2 systems that had allowed him to press, control, and bruise results in 2016-2017 and 2017-2018. Tottenham’s shot differential plummeted.

What remained of Tottenham’s squad in December was seven foundationally great players and four players that Pochettino had to manage around.
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Hint: Sissoko isn't one of the seven, no matter how hard you wish.
 
scaramanga said:
Hint: Sissoko isn't one of the seven, no matter how hard you wish.
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No wish of mine, I have no investment in Sissoko one way or another. I just like when things are quoted for them to be quoted properly without inference. There are rules to conversation and they need to be adhered to.
 
fernadez said:
No wish of mine, I have no investment in Sissoko one way or another. I just like when things are quoted for them to be quoted properly without inference. There are rules to conversation and they need to be adhered to.
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There is always inference in all methods of discourse.

The very, very clear inference in both this and the last article we discussed is that Poch has had to find a way around Sissoko being incapable of playing the possession/pressing football our team was built around. The author doesn't have to use those precise words to say that - that's how language works.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...hettino-harry-kane-tottenham-champions-league


It is worth acknowledging first that even in defeat the season has been an obvious triumph. Spurs have lost 18 games, shuttled between three home grounds and still managed to sustain the best all-round season in the club’s modern history.

Really, Spurs just should not be here at all, disrupting the dominant economic model with their intangibles of spirit and fine coaching. The numbers can become a little grating. But the numbers are also astonishing. Tottenham’s playing budget for the three years from 2015-2018 was £351m, slightly less than Saudi Sportswashing Machine, who were not in the Champions League final this season.

Not the most insightful article, but some good points made, especially, to me, above.
 
Jurgen the German said:
I know Poch prioritises the league and CL but we have to win something and then hopefully build on that. The other teams in the top 6 all nick trophies even when they have bad seasons. The difference is we don’t. I’d be ecstatic if we won the Carabao cup tbh let alone the title or the CL.
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We need quality in depth first. There's a big difference between us and them but the gap should start closing now

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90291Spur said:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...hettino-harry-kane-tottenham-champions-league


It is worth acknowledging first that even in defeat the season has been an obvious triumph. Spurs have lost 18 games, shuttled between three home grounds and still managed to sustain the best all-round season in the club’s modern history.

Really, Spurs just should not be here at all, disrupting the dominant economic model with their intangibles of spirit and fine coaching. The numbers can become a little grating. But the numbers are also astonishing. Tottenham’s playing budget for the three years from 2015-2018 was £351m, slightly less than Saudi Sportswashing Machine, who were not in the Champions League final this season.

Not the most insightful article, but some good points made, especially, to me, above.
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You missed out the best quote, when he was talking about the fire walking and arrow snapping:

‘A couple more weeks and Pochettino would have had them building a space ship to escape The Rapture.’ :D
 
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