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Manager Sack Watch

Grays_1890 said:
Thomas Frank for the work and way he runs Brentford would be a great appointment, young and well known for being an innovator, Potter is the favourite and from the work he done at the lowly club abroad you can see he can grow culture and unity something that a club like Brighton need in my opinion, emphasis on culture.

Then you look at players like Maupay who would be a better step up played than signing duds from abroad, the money spent on that Romanian lad at Brighton in my opinion would have been better spent in the long run on young English talent. The lad at Huddersfield who came from Charlton would have been a good signing for them above what they purchased, Karlan Grant. Che Adams. Wingers like Bradley Dack, Olly McBurnie. The end of the day Brighton went on the continent and purchased a load of crap....simple as that because Houghton could not even bring himself to play them half the time either that or he didnt play to their strengths, either way he has to be questioned.

Even now if Leeds don't go up they could take Bielsa and be a better club straight away in my opinion.
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Thanks, I appreciate that.

Frank has done well, but I think there is a bit of a catch when recruiting from Brentford - the club runs a bit differently doesnt it? The manager is more a coach and part of a much larger set up, so I think its fair to question how well he would perform elsewhere. Smith has done well at Villa, but things didnt go so well for Warburton (and I really thought he was the next big thing...).

Potter has done well with Swansea, they will be looking at promotion next season. Having put a year in and got the club running well I do wonder if he would just jump ship and start again somewhere that would take a hell of a lot of work to get into the shape he likes. Swansea really do (did) fit him like a glove, Brighton would be a much bigger job.

And if they did get him, its a gamble, he has never operated at that level has he?

Player wise some excellent shouts. I dont know if the money was off putting for them, cant imagine Brentford selling Maupay cheap for example.

Actually, quite interesting - I was looking for links to Maupay to gauge price (Villa linked in Jan at £20m) and it turns out Brighton went in for him at the time he went to Brentford, him choosing Brentford as a preference due to playing style (even though it was a smaller contract)!

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...-championship-s-final-promotion-a4139636.html

Brighton paid £17m for that striker last summer, I dont think its unreasonable to suggest that decent Championship players would have been priced above that. There are some silly fees going on in Championship to Championship moves, let alone selling upwards.

So yes, some excellent suggestions - but IMO none were guaranteed to even be doable and all present risk (some significant).

As much as Brighton were struggling I still see Hughton as a safe pair of hands, and I really think he has earned some patience - to sack him off as they have I think is a massive gamble and one likely to backfire.

They could well pull it out of the bag, time will tell, but right now it looks like a bad move to me.


PS: All the talk of bad spending, it occurred to me to check if it was actually Hughton buying the players, found this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...as-paid-price-mistakes-others-brightons-next/

Those Brighton fans meanwhile who blamed the manager for “wasting money” ignored the fact that the club’s recruitment department, not Hughton, determined transfer policy. There is a strong case for saying Hughton has paid the price for mistakes made elsewhere in the club.

If thats the case then it shines a very different light on the situation, doesnt it?

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The upshot is that a manager who saved Brighton from dropping into League One has just been fired despite keeping them in the Premier League twice, while never once this season visiting 18th, 19th or 20th positions. Ashworth will need a stellar summer of buying and selling players if Hughton’s replacement is to stand any chance of making it a survival hat-trick.

Which I think really captures my thoughts
 
Legohamster said:
They have the 6th highest net spend in the league since they came up, they have attacking players at the club they just don’t use them.

I think the frustration was that when they attack teams they look like they can hurt them.

He may have had enough as well.
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That did come as a surprise to me, have they got Comolli in charge of their recruiting to have wasted so much money?!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1127864714313240576
 
Wolves, West Ham, Bournemouth, Fulham all spending big as well.

Its what happens when you dont really have saleable assets but need to strengthen to survive.

And the article I found yesterday says Hughton wasnt even the one doing the buying!
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
Thanks, I appreciate that.

Frank has done well, but I think there is a bit of a catch when recruiting from Brentford - the club runs a bit differently doesnt it? The manager is more a coach and part of a much larger set up, so I think its fair to question how well he would perform elsewhere. Smith has done well at Villa, but things didnt go so well for Warburton (and I really thought he was the next big thing...).

Potter has done well with Swansea, they will be looking at promotion next season. Having put a year in and got the club running well I do wonder if he would just jump ship and start again somewhere that would take a hell of a lot of work to get into the shape he likes. Swansea really do (did) fit him like a glove, Brighton would be a much bigger job.

And if they did get him, its a gamble, he has never operated at that level has he?

Player wise some excellent shouts. I dont know if the money was off putting for them, cant imagine Brentford selling Maupay cheap for example.

Actually, quite interesting - I was looking for links to Maupay to gauge price (Villa linked in Jan at £20m) and it turns out Brighton went in for him at the time he went to Brentford, him choosing Brentford as a preference due to playing style (even though it was a smaller contract)!

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...-championship-s-final-promotion-a4139636.html

Brighton paid £17m for that striker last summer, I dont think its unreasonable to suggest that decent Championship players would have been priced above that. There are some silly fees going on in Championship to Championship moves, let alone selling upwards.

So yes, some excellent suggestions - but IMO none were guaranteed to even be doable and all present risk (some significant).

As much as Brighton were struggling I still see Hughton as a safe pair of hands, and I really think he has earned some patience - to sack him off as they have I think is a massive gamble and one likely to backfire.

They could well pull it out of the bag, time will tell, but right now it looks like a bad move to me.


PS: All the talk of bad spending, it occurred to me to check if it was actually Hughton buying the players, found this:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...as-paid-price-mistakes-others-brightons-next/

Those Brighton fans meanwhile who blamed the manager for “wasting money” ignored the fact that the club’s recruitment department, not Hughton, determined transfer policy. There is a strong case for saying Hughton has paid the price for mistakes made elsewhere in the club.

If thats the case then it shines a very different light on the situation, doesnt it?

The article finishes
The upshot is that a manager who saved Brighton from dropping into League One has just been fired despite keeping them in the Premier League twice, while never once this season visiting 18th, 19th or 20th positions. Ashworth will need a stellar summer of buying and selling players if Hughton’s replacement is to stand any chance of making it a survival hat-trick.

Which I think really captures my thoughts
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The same pundits that spent the season criticising the way the Albion play are now criticising him being removed from the job.

It’s coming out he lost the players with the style of play as well.
 
Pulis set to go
Tony Pulis is expected to leave Middlesbrough this week.

Pulis, 61, has failed to sign a new deal with his current contract expiring this summer.

There had been suggestions he had been offered a 12-month extension but that is now unlikely after Boro failed to make the Championship play-offs.
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
Pulis set to go
Tony Pulis is expected to leave Middlesbrough this week.

Pulis, 61, has failed to sign a new deal with his current contract expiring this summer.

There had been suggestions he had been offered a 12-month extension but that is now unlikely after Boro failed to make the Championship play-offs.
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49 goals in 46 should not get you an extension. That they were just 1 point off 6th says a lot about the lack of quality in the championship.
 
Jordinho said:
49 goals in 46 should not get you an extension. That they were just 1 point off 6th says a lot about the lack of quality in the championship.
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There is a lot of quality in the Championship, it is a very competitive and entertaining league.

Their 49 goals is anomalous to their position, the next team to score so few was 20th. They also only conceeded 41, joint best record in the league with Sheffield Utd (who scored 78).

Basically Pulis Pulised the hell out of Boro. Dire defensive football with little intent to score and every intent to strangle the hell out of teams.

And, of course, he did so demanding autonomy on signings and a fair budget to boot. And then bought in John Obi Mikel.
 
West Brom want Chris Hughton talks over manager’s job after play-off exit

West Bromwich Albion plan to meet Chris Hughton next week to discuss the possibility of him becoming their manager. Hughton is out of work after surprisingly being sacked by Brighton & Hove Albion on Monday, less than 24 hours after the Premier League season finished, and West Brom have identified the 60-year-old as a leading contender for their vacancy.
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Hopefully he gets something soon. Perhaps he can pass his old club on the way down next season. He can probably build his reputation further with a promotion than avoiding relegation.
 
He will be able to walk into any Championship job in the country, had a proven (and very good) record at that level.

WBA were fools to sack of Moore, and the new guy hasnt shown the nous for the job full time - Hughton would be a good move for them.
 
milo said:
I know a few Brighton ST holders, they've been calling for him to go for a while.
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Same here.

Problems in that squad big time with how some of the British lads behave and they new foreign signings being more professional.

Stephens and Duffy both being out in London on the tinkle a night before a game in March is pathetic.

Knockhart shagging anything that moves including female club staff.
 
Chris Coleman sacked from some Chinese club. I really don’t rate this guy.

Not criticizing his spell at the Chinese club in particular (I know nothing of them or there expectation/potential) but he seems to only have one success on his CV (Wales with Bale and Ramsey) and the rest all failures.
 
Gazza Dazzla said:
Chris Coleman sacked from some Chinese club. I really don’t rate this guy.

Not criticizing his spell at the Chinese club in particular (I know nothing of them or there expectation/potential) but he seems to only have one success on his CV (Wales with Bale and Ramsey) and the rest all failures.
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Did well at Fulham too imo.
 
BREAKING NEWS

Tony Pulis has left his job as Middlesbrough boss.


There are plenty of reasons, but I cant stand Pulis. And I cant stand him to the degree I wonder if its unfair or irrational.
And then I see a picture of him and I know its perfectly valid.

No doubt he will pop up somewhere in the next few months*, but for that time Ill be glad he is out of the game.



*Saudi Sportswashing Machine? Things dont work out with Benitez so Ashley does the ultimate trolling of their fans? Burnley? Dyche finally gets a better offer? Brighton? Suddenly Hughtons football doesnt seem so bad...
 
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