Jose Mourinho - SACKED

[Bedfordspurs]

i worry about anyone who believes what they read in that rag i really do.

I like Wilson
He knows his football
Which is why I’m always surprised when he does an article and gets basics wrong

 

[parklane1]

I like Wilson
He knows his football
Which is why I’m always surprised when he does an article and gets basics wrong

The thing is with most ( if not all) football journalists is that they have space to fill, if there is not a major story they will generally make up a piece that is relevant to those who have the loudest opinions, disgruntled fans ( because they are the ones who usually make the most noise) are a good way of doing that. Its a job and most of them care little about the real facts behind a lot of them.

 

[Baleforce]

I like Wilson
He knows his football
Which is why I’m always surprised when he does an article and gets basics wrong

I like him too, I’ve read most of his books and I agree he is very smart about the game most of the time.

He has a blind spot where Jose/Spurs are involved though.

 

[Baleforce]

The thing is with most ( if not all) football journalists is that they have space to fill, if there is not a major story they will pull out one of the many Spurs hit pieces they have already written.

Ftfy

 

[Mikey10]

So a bit like Jose but with more points per game then?

Not really.

Mourinho is the most successful manager in the history of the game. Sherwood is a tit, was completely unprepared for PL management and hasn’t held down a job in coaching at any level since we dumped him.

He’s now a brick pundit.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I like him too, I’ve read most of his books and I agree he is very smart about the game most of the time.

He has a blind spot where Jose/Spurs are involved though.

Yeah
His overseas football stuff is great, if sometimes a bit random
How Jose hatred is just odd

 

[Pirate55]

Sell Eriksen, Toby and Rose at peak value, nobody watted them when we're cheap. One of them is still here and we can't get rid of them.
If only it was so easy.

Sissoko, and the two other French wingers poch did not want.
Not only did he not want the two young wingers he had never played a team that used those styles of player and he never did.
Those three were purely on Levy.

I am glad you seem to know the innermost workings of the club so well.

There were strong rumors that Dier and Toby were wanted by Mourinhos United ( ironically!) . Iirc there were also talks of hefty bids for Eriksen and Dele at one time. However that is just the rumourmill

 

[MKSpur]

Sell Eriksen, Toby and Rose at peak value, nobody watted them when we're cheap. One of them is still here and we can't get rid of them.
If only it was so easy.

Sissoko, and the two other French wingers poch did not want.
Not only did he not want the two young wingers he had never played a team that used those styles of player and he never did.
Those three were purely on Levy.

There’s always a grey area with signings, successful ones seem to be attributed to managers and poor ones to Levy or the committee. If Levy has really forced the three players you mention on a manager who had us punching above our weight then we are in big trouble, his role should be to provide the parameters for the budget and negotiate, maybe pass on opportunities offered by clubs directly to him but not actually decide who we sign.
When Mitchell left it felt like Poch either asked or accepted that he would have a bigger role in the decisions (title change to manager) which was then followed by his statement that title needed to revert due to some dissatisfaction with what was happening.

 

[milo]

A maximum of 9 games left and then we can put this failed chapter behind us

 

[Baleforce]

A maximum of 9 games left and then we can put this failed chapter behind us

Jose or the season?

 

[glasgowspur]

I am glad you seem to know the innermost workings of the club so well.

There were strong rumors that Dier and Toby were wanted by Mourinhos United ( ironically!) . Iirc there were also talks of hefty bids for Eriksen and Dele at one time. However that is just the rumourmill

Nothing to do with innermost working, Eriksen ran his contract down and could not attract interest, Toby was available for a cut price deal and nobody wanted him and I'm not even that sure where or what Danny Rose is.
So the point you were trying to make of sell a few of the stars and reinvest isn't that easy.

 

[milo]

Jose or the season?

Mourinho. He's gone in the summer.

 

[thfcsteff]

I know you love Poch and don't hold him accountable for anything.

To me, it simply beggars belief that he had no input into our transfer dealings. He should have been an integral part in planning for the future with evolution rather than simply crying " a painful rebuild is necessary" when it was already too late.

Yes funds were tight during the stadium build, but any half decent senior manager should have gone to the chairman and be part of the implementation process. For example, Poch could have gone to Levy and said, if we need funds sell x, y and z ( just picking names out if the air -Dier, Dele, Eriksen, Toby, Rose) when we could get decent money for them and replace them gradually over time with younger fitter versions. Its is called managing change. I rather suspect Poch was too loyal to too many players for too long.

Also, riddle me this. We already had several wide players in the three behind Kane. Son, Lamela, and Dele for two slots in his preferred 4231 formation. Yet Poch presided over the acquisitions of so many wide players, Moura, NJai, NKudu and Sissoko ( in his original incarnation). Even in his last window he bought Sessegnon and Clarke. The seeming obsession with wide players even continued two months into Mourinhos reign with the needless acquisition of Bergwyn. Yet we had no adequate cover for Eriksen or Kane and hadn't replaced the gaping hole left by Dembele and Wanyama. To me, Poch allowed our transfer policy to spiral out of control with the players bought. If he had any gumption ( and he had a lot of credit in the bank with Levy at that stage) he should have demanded more control over purchases and agreed a plan with Levy over who he was prepared to dispense with.

Add the fact that he was probably a key mover in our Argentian acquisitions and they have all been disappointing . I know Lamela wasn't his buy but as our record signing at the time he simply hasn't delivered enough . Both Gazza and Foyth were flops and for me the jury is still out on LoCelso and ( as with Lamela) I worry about his one footedness.

If Poch really never had any input on signings, then as a matter of principle, he should have resigned. I don't for one minute believe Levy would have kept him out of the loop on signings. To buy players he wouldn't play is just a futile exercise. No, I suspect Poch was just too loyal to his players and didn't want to sell them even though they were past their best. I feel he presided over their waning displays for far too long without taking decisive action.

It's a Mourinho thread, and your first line is inaccurate.

 

[thfcsteff]

Interesting reading. Some people's lips are getting looser...

https://theathletic.com/2506644/202...ions-and-trophies/?source=user_shared_article

 

[Baleforce]

Mourinho. He's gone in the summer.

You think it’s definite?

Gut feeling or have you heard something?

 

[milo]

You think it’s definite?

Gut feeling or have you heard something?

I think so. He's lost Alderweireld and Kane, two of the players most enthusiastic about his appointment. I don't see a way back.

I haven't heard anything.

 

[SteveAWOL]

It wasn’t a miss hit shot, he was taken out, it should have been a pelanty.

Yeah, in this day and age he probably should’ve just screamed for a penalty rather than even attempting the shot but Bale must’ve been thinking that he could score even whilst being clattered...

 

[Legohamster]

Sell Eriksen, Toby and Rose at peak value, nobody watted them when we're cheap. One of them is still here and we can't get rid of them.
If only it was so easy.

Sissoko, and the two other French wingers poch did not want.
Not only did he not want the two young wingers he had never played a team that used those styles of player and he never did.
Those three were purely on Levy.

We decided not to cash in on CE as Mopo wanted him to stay and try and convince him to sign a new contract.

Im not too bothered who did and didn’t want him, we haven’t replaced him and what he brought to us - which was making us tick

 

[Finney Is Back]

Not really.

Mourinho is the most successful manager in the history of the game. Sherwood is a tit, was completely unprepared for PL management and hasn’t held down a job in coaching at any level since we dumped him.

He’s now a brick pundit.

Yep... and despite all that Sherwood won more points per PL game than Jose.

 

[glasgowspur]

We decided not to cash in on CE as Mopo wanted him to stay and try and convince him to sign a new contract.

Im not too bothered who did and didn’t want him, we haven’t replaced him and what he brought to us - which was making us tick

Not being able to replace Eriksen (or adequate replacement for Toby) emphasis my point, it isn't as simple as sell this one and that one and replace them with better players, as the original poster claimed.