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Jehovah's Witnesses try to murder their own son

milo said:
One of the reasons why I find a GHod explanation unlikely is that a GHod has always been put just beyond the frontier of our understanding. As our understanding of our universe and our place in it has increased, so has the space accorded to a GHod.

We are now left with a GHod having a role before the big bang which is the current frontier territory. I think that it is unlikely that as we increase our understanding here that we will find a GHod, for the same reasons why we haven't found a GHod's hand in any of the other areas which we were told we would find it.
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You see how small we are in relation to our solar system, galaxy, universe? So small and insignificant? Well look at it like this, what we know is as small as we are, but what can be known is as big as the rest of the universe.

Now tell ne again about frontiers?
 
Erm... you're all aware there is proof GHod does actually exist right? He's got a Facebook and Twitter page. You should check it out, he speaks a lot of sense.
 
galeforce said:
because its illogical
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Um... but its not, most of the greatest minds in history have been people of faith (doesn't matter which one), if its a simple matter of logic, you telling me you were able to be more logical than them?
 
AuroRaman said:
Erm... you're all aware there is proof GHod does actually exist right? He's got a Facebook and Twitter page. You should check it out, he speaks a lot of sense.
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How come he never told me (angry face) you got a link?
 
DTA said:
Um... but its not, most of the greatest minds in history have been people of faith (doesn't matter which one), if its a simple matter of logic, you telling me you were able to be more logical than them?
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I think that's a claim that requires evidence

are you saying there is logical evidence for a GHod?
 
DTA said:
Thq will check it out, ;)

Love the billboard idea.
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Take it with a pinch of salt of course ;) However he comes up with some awesome new commandments, and some of his FB conversations with the more extreme members of religion are brilliant.
 
For a couple of parents that tried to "murder" their own son..it now looks like Ashya is going to get the treatment the parents hoped for. I wish them nothing but good fortune for the future. ALL "good decent" people hope for a positive outcome. I am sure that some will still find fault in their actions..in order to further their warped agenda. Quite frankly, I actually pity those individuals.


Ashya King allowed to fly to Prague for treatment

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29086267

"The parents of five-year-old brain tumour patient Ashya King have been given permission by the High Court to take him to Prague for treatment.

He was expected to travel by private jet on Friday evening ahead of starting proton beam treatment.

Parents Brett and Naghmeh King removed Ashya from Southampton General Hospital on 28 August after disagreeing with doctors about his treatment.

They were later arrested in Spain under a European Arrest Warrant.

Ashya was made a ward of court at the request of Portsmouth City Council, but council leader Donna Jones said that status would end once he was admitted to the Proton Therapy Center in Prague.


[video=youtube;7b4YgSCgihc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b4YgSCgihc[/video]
 
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Reggie_Mentalist said:
For a couple of parents that tried to "murder" their own son..it now looks like Ashya is going to get the treatment the parents hoped for. I wish them nothing but good fortune for the future. ALL "good decent" people hope for a positive outcome. I am sure that some will still find fault in their actions..in order to further their warped agenda. Quite frankly, I actually pity those individuals.


Ashya King allowed to fly to Prague for treatment

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29086267

"The parents of five-year-old brain tumour patient Ashya King have been given permission by the High Court to take him to Prague for treatment.

He was expected to travel by private jet on Friday evening ahead of starting proton beam treatment.

Parents Brett and Naghmeh King removed Ashya from Southampton General Hospital on 28 August after disagreeing with doctors about his treatment.

They were later arrested in Spain under a European Arrest Warrant.

Ashya was made a ward of court at the request of Portsmouth City Council, but council leader Donna Jones said that status would end once he was admitted to the Proton Therapy Center in Prague.


[video=youtube;7b4YgSCgihc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b4YgSCgihc[/video]
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I hope it turns out well for the kid.

I also hope his parents are prevented from ever risking the lives of any children again.
 
scaramanga said:
I hope it turns out well for the kid.

I also hope his parents are prevented from ever risking the lives of any children again.
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I am very pleased that you said that.

I differ, in opinion, from your second sentence. I honestly think that any parent would be prepared to go any distance in order to try and help a gravely ill child of their own. Those parents have been under extreme pressure over the last few months. They give me the impression that they are extremely well grounded and obviously weighed up the options before taking their extreme actions.

I, like yourself, was shocked when I heard the initial reports of this story. I mean, who the hell are these people, friggin' Jehovahs, scum bags the lot of em !

The fact remains that their eldest son totally PWN'd a lot of folks by using social media in an expert way. It was refreshing, wonderful, and a huge great *fu.ck you*
 
DTA said:
Um... but its not, most of the greatest minds in history have been people of faith (doesn't matter which one), if its a simple matter of logic, you telling me you were able to be more logical than them?
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Which great modern minds would you put in that camp?
 
or further back

Gallileo often gets cited but his repentance was more about staying alive than doubts to his copernicun theory
 
galeforce said:
or further back

Gallileo often gets cited but his repentance was more about staying alive than doubts to his copernicun theory
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Hillarious.

Galileo ended his life feeling abandoned by men. He felt misunderstood by the leadership of a Church he loved until his death. No doubt resentment at times filled his mind toward some humans in high places. Nonetheless, his moments of bitterness toward men never clouded his faith in the Scriptures and in GHod.

The Holy Scriptures, to Galileo were divinely inspired and inerrant, though humans can misinterpret their true meaning. “…the Holy Scriptures cannot err and the decrees therein contained are absolutely true and inviolable. I should have added that, though scripture cannot err its expounders and interpreters are liable to err in many ways …when they base themselves always on literal meaning of the words.”[vi]

And yet the revision continues.
 
DTA said:
Hillarious.

Galileo ended his life feeling abandoned by men. He felt misunderstood by the leadership of a Church he loved until his death. No doubt resentment at times filled his mind toward some humans in high places. Nonetheless, his moments of bitterness toward men never clouded his faith in the Scriptures and in GHod.

The Holy Scriptures, to Galileo were divinely inspired and inerrant, though humans can misinterpret their true meaning. “…the Holy Scriptures cannot err and the decrees therein contained are absolutely true and inviolable. I should have added that, though scripture cannot err its expounders and interpreters are liable to err in many ways …when they base themselves always on literal meaning of the words.”[vi]

And yet the revision continues.
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It was very difficult to be anything but Catholic in 17th Century Italy. As Galileo found out when he was tried as a heretic by the Inquisition and placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life.
 
DTA said:
Um... but its not, most of the greatest minds in history have been people of faith (doesn't matter which one), if its a simple matter of logic, you telling me you were able to be more logical than them?
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Some of the greatest minds in history also died of issues complicated by malnutrition and cleanliness. I'd like to think we've moved past that now. The accumulated knowledge that the human race had pooled hadn't yet reached a point where we could avoid those things, now it has.

For all of human history there's been innumerable questions that we just couldn't answer because knowledge is an iterative process. It requires the correct foundations and must be built upon bit by bit over time. For the last 1.3M years the human race has been using the fallacy "I don't know, therefore GHod". In every single one of those unknowns where an explanation has been found the answer, again and again, is not GHod.

This has happened with 100% of every answered question in the entire history of mankind. There's nothing that suggests to me the rest of the answers will be any different.
 
Reggie_Mentalist said:
I am very pleased that you said that.

I differ, in opinion, from your second sentence. I honestly think that any parent would be prepared to go any distance in order to try and help a gravely ill child of their own. Those parents have been under extreme pressure over the last few months. They give me the impression that they are extremely well grounded and obviously weighed up the options before taking their extreme actions.

I, like yourself, was shocked when I heard the initial reports of this story. I mean, who the hell are these people, friggin' Jehovahs, scum bags the lot of em !

The fact remains that their eldest son totally PWN'd a lot of folks by using social media in an expert way. It was refreshing, wonderful, and a huge great *fu.ck you*
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I did try and watch those videos, I just couldn't stick them.

I've got no time for rambling or people that can't get to the point so I lost interest very quickly.

I can tell from the way he speaks that he's not a medical professional, so I doubt I'm missing any pertinent points from the case.
 
scaramanga said:
Some of the greatest minds in history also died of issues complicated by malnutrition and cleanliness. I'd like to think we've moved past that now. The accumulated knowledge that the human race had pooled hadn't yet reached a point where we could avoid those things, now it has.

For all of human history there's been innumerable questions that we just couldn't answer because knowledge is an iterative process. It requires the correct foundations and must be built upon bit by bit over time. For the last 1.3M years the human race has been using the fallacy "I don't know, therefore GHod". In every single one of those unknowns where an explanation has been found the answer, again and again, is not GHod.

This has happened with 100% of every answered question in the entire history of mankind. There's nothing that suggests to me the rest of the answers will be any different.
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Religion is man made - so is flawed from the outset. The only thing that really matters is the belief in a higher power, and it's something which cannot be dissproved - hence why people think they've won the argument by pointing out that *insert religious fable* is not actually possible because *insert modern science*
 
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