Internet porn to be blocked in UK

[billyiddo]

don't see the problem with 'opting in' to be able to watch porn - it's the 21st century ffs - what's there to be embarrassed about? if it stops a high proportion of young children/early teens being exposed to graphic images then i think it's a good move

 

[Dayo]

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[Danishfurniturelover]

So should we all violent video games too?

No but they should be censored so that young and impressionable children can not view it. I know the stock answer to this will be from some " well i played violent video games and i never murdered anyone" my view is that if just one more jamie bulger type case happened it would be to horrible to imagine.

I think the are age restrictions on video games already anyway, but as i do not play them im not to bothered, more the concern is if my son is exposed to images i do not want him to be exposed to till he is of an age and maturity where he can handle with these things.

On the original point about giving children back their childhoods i think some of these t shirts aimed at 6 year olds with words on it like dirty slut are completely wrong. Im sure some can say im old fashioned and to daily mail. But children should enjoy their childhood without them being forced into sex objects. I am not old fashioned i do not expect children to be playing with a tennis ball in the street i understand times have changed but we can still protect them from the seedier side of things while they are young.

Though i have to say living just 600 yards from the sea it has been so nice to see the past week or so children just enjoying being out and about and playing which goes to prove to me from the big smiles on their faces, that children really do enjoy just being left alone to play.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

don't see the problem with 'opting in' to be able to watch porn - it's the 21st century ffs - what's there to be embarrassed about? if it stops a high proportion of young children/early teens being exposed to graphic images then i think it's a good move

eactly and a good post i would give you karma if i we still did that

 

[billyiddo]

we do...not that im looking for to boost my rep or anything 8-[

 

[Richie]

don't see the problem with 'opting in' to be able to watch porn - it's the 21st century ffs - what's there to be embarrassed about? if it stops a high proportion of young children/early teens being exposed to graphic images then i think it's a good move

But it won't. It won't do anything of the sort, and it is foolish to think that it will. As I say, it will give parents a false sense of confidence relating to what they think thier children can see online which will lead to less supervision.

Also, it will send kids to much murkier depths of the internet to find what they are looking for.

Prohibition is a good analogy, once alcohol was banned it created a black market with no quality control over the products and people started drinking dangerous moonshine distilled in bath tubs. Illegal drugs are another example, they can be cut with anything and that is more dangerous than the drug itself.

Relegating pornography in to the darker, less regulated 'speakeasys' of anonymous p2p file sharing will only increase dangers for todays youth.

 

[Richie]

As an aside if UKIP are Libertarian as they claim, they should take a stance against this opt-in feature and will have won my vote for the next election

 

[billyiddo]

i disagree entirely - children will not be looking for it so won't be inundated with graphic images every time they use a computer = good thing

most teenagers aren't that motivated to watch porn as to delve to 'murky depths' in order to search it out, especially if they aren't as aware of it in the first place with it not being so easily available from an early age.

of course there will be teenagers who will go to those lengths but these measures are mainly about reducing the number of young (12 and under at a guess) people exposed to stuff they are not ready to see - not stopping those who want to view it from doing so. imv

 

[spursman17]

Are you talking about actual rapes or simulated *struggle cuddle*? Of course theres no argument that any images/video of actual rapes should be treated in the same category as child abuse images.

On the topic of simulated *struggle cuddle*, I'm not so sure. First, the evidence is inconclusive as to whether it actually has an effect on human behaviour, secondly I do wonder where the threshold between kinky/hardcore/bdsm sex and "*struggle cuddle* simulation" lies (very much a grey area that seems impossible to police IMO), and thirdly if we go down that route why stop with *struggle cuddle* videos? How about we ban all violent video games to stop gun and knife crime? How about music which normalises self harm?

Simulated *struggle cuddle* obviously. Actual *struggle cuddle* is not even needed to be mentioned for the reasons you stated.

Simulated *struggle cuddle* is also wrong imo. Yes they may be actors portraying scenes that they both agree to but the viewer finds a form of fantasy in a person being forced into a sexual act which they do not want to participate in.

It's encouraging a persons fantasy which should not be encouraged at all as *struggle cuddle* is wrong on all accounts and to even find it appealing is sick imo.

Games like GTA may portray violence but these games are for audiences of 18+ and by that age you should be able to differentiate a game from reality. Difference is there's no sexual motive being the driving force behind the entertainment.

 

[billyiddo]

but does the suppression of these fantasies cause more harm than good? maybe being able to watch such material is enough to quench a lot of peoples thirst for that kind of thing - denying them their only outlet may cause them to act out? a bit of deeper conversation that one though..

 

[spursman17]

but does the suppression of these fantasies cause more harm than good? maybe being able to watch such material is enough to quench a lot of peoples thirst for that kind of thing - denying them their only outlet may cause them to act out? a bit of deeper conversation that one though..

Personally I think it's bordering on lines that should not be crossed. If someone is sitting there at home with an unnatural thirst and need to watch simulated *struggle cuddle* then surely they aren't healthy in the head..

It's like saying adults who look young and so dress as kids would be acceptable to sell porn. Although technically legal it's morally wrong.

 

[markysimmo]

File-sharing websites EZTV and YIFY Torrents are likely to be made inaccessible in the UK following a ruling by the High Court.

British internet service providers (ISPs) were ordered to block access to the services following legal action by the Federation Against Copyright Theft (Fact) and the Motion Picture Association (MPA).

Both the MPA and Fact claim that they attempted to contact both websites to warn them that they are in breach of copyright laws before taking legal action, TorrentFreak reports.

EZTV and YIFY Torrents are the latest in a string of torrent websites that the High Court has clamped down on, with the likes of Kickass Torrents and The Pirate Bay now restricted by the UK's major ISPs.

The bans are part of a broader initiative to combat piracy online, which also includes cutting off offending websites' revenue stream by preventing them from running advertisements.

It is expected to take around two weeks for British ISPs to implement the blockade

 

[scaramanga]

File-sharing websites EZTV and YIFY Torrents are likely to be made inaccessible in the UK following a ruling by the High Court.

British internet service providers (ISPs) were ordered to block access to the services following legal action by the Federation Against Copyright Theft (Fact) and the Motion Picture Association (MPA).

Both the MPA and Fact claim that they attempted to contact both websites to warn them that they are in breach of copyright laws before taking legal action, TorrentFreak reports.

EZTV and YIFY Torrents are the latest in a string of torrent websites that the High Court has clamped down on, with the likes of Kickass Torrents and The Pirate Bay now restricted by the UK's major ISPs.

The bans are part of a broader initiative to combat piracy online, which also includes cutting off offending websites' revenue stream by preventing them from running advertisements.

It is expected to take around two weeks for British ISPs to implement the blockade

Does anyone here know of one single person who used to use torrents and now doesn't because of the Pirate Bay's ISP block?

I don't know of one and very few have even needed to ask me how to get around it.

 

[thingonaspring]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/nov/13/children-porn-starbucks

this is quite a good summation of things from last year.

 

[Spursalot]

don't see the problem with 'opting in' to be able to watch porn - it's the 21st century ffs - what's there to be embarrassed about? if it stops a high proportion of young children/early teens being exposed to graphic images then i think it's a good move

I think that it should be an opt out, rather than an opt in firstly. If you have children you should quite easily be able to opt out of these sites and that way you would not be compiling a list of those who like to watch it.



Secondly this is far too late. The internet is out of their control and they are trying to react to it. This would have been a great move five or so years back, now it's just trying to put a band-aid on a gaping wound. They have pictures and movies on their phones. This isn't going to stop them seeing the pictures if they want to.

 

[Baleforce]

it's not gonna stop anyone who is determined, it might stop some accidental exposure though

this is very much a case of "we have to do something, this is something, therefore we must do it"

 

[Naughton16]

I had thought that having it out there in public domain so that someone might stumble upon it wouldn't be such a bad thing. That it might help the actual victims of abuse to be more easily identified or outrage the public into supporting more spend on resources to stop such abuse. Instead the response seems to be close the curtains and pretend everything's fine. I don't know that kid so its not my problem etc. That's the part I find most sickening.

 

[Hootnow]

My ahem *friend is hardly a computer genius and it took ahem *him 3 days or so to figure out a very reliable way of getting back onto kat.ph once it had been banned by the isps. In fact, he managed to find a site which made him aware of multiple other torrent sites other than that one.

Whether you think its morally right or not, technically, I can't see that its gonna have much effect. Teenage boys (and seemingly increasingly teenage girls as well) watch porn. Before, they used to buy magazines or rent vhs, now they go on porn sites. This kind of thing might stop 8 year olds from stumbling upon porn, great. But as others have pointed out, it isn't difficult to get around these things and might open up slightly older kids to things they otherwise wouldn't have found themselves looking at.

 

[tommysvr]

Simulated *struggle cuddle* obviously. Actual *struggle cuddle* is not even needed to be mentioned for the reasons you stated.

Simulated *struggle cuddle* is also wrong imo. Yes they may be actors portraying scenes that they both agree to but the viewer finds a form of fantasy in a person being forced into a sexual act which they do not want to participate in.

It's encouraging a persons fantasy which should not be encouraged at all as *struggle cuddle* is wrong on all accounts and to even find it appealing is sick imo.

Games like GTA may portray violence but these games are for audiences of 18+ and by that age you should be able to differentiate a game from reality. Difference is there's no sexual motive being the driving force behind the entertainment.

I agree with you, but what then happens to a movie like The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, which has a very violent *struggle cuddle* scene apparently.

 

[Craig_J]

don't see the problem with 'opting in' to be able to watch porn - it's the 21st century ffs - what's there to be embarrassed about? if it stops a high proportion of young children/early teens being exposed to graphic images then i think it's a good move

Parents can put their own block on, don't want your child seeing it then get a block.

I'm going to start saving up ready for the breathing tax