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I liked Erik Lamela before it was cool

Rossi22 said:
I wouldn't say I'm losing patience with Lamela but I am losing faith a bit. I think he's too slight currently to play wide in the PL, I'd say he has above average pace but below-average power so finds it hard to beat defenders, I think for now he'd be best off rotating with Kane in that second striker role but even then I'm not totally sure on that.
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his best position for us will be playing off the striker. I'd love to see him play off Soldado but Kane is undroppable right now, which means Lamela is benched.
 
Mumorn said:
his best position for us will be playing off the striker. I'd love to see him play off Soldado but Kane is undroppable right now, which means Lamela is benched.
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Just can't see that at all, there's several players better than him in that position. He doesn't have the vision, situational awareness and speed of thought to play it.

Ok, yes, my mistake, he's 23 obviously. But by that age a player has pretty much become the player he will be and just improves in his ability to read the game.
 
Bonsaiboy said:
Just can't see that at all, there's several players better than him in that position. He doesn't have the vision, situational awareness and speed of thought to play it.

Ok, yes, my mistake, he's 23 obviously. But by that age a player has pretty much become the player he will be and just improves in his ability to read the game.
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Modric was 23 when we signed him and took a year before we saw the best of him and has continued to mature as a player season by season so age isn't really an issue at this point. Funny that you say a player only improves his ability to read the game from that age when this seems to be your cheif problem with regards to Lamelas game...

With regards to the other points - ability to read the game etc Lamela is just 2 behind Eriksen in terms of chances created this season (who i believe has the highest total for us) so that would suggest he's doing well in that regard.

Going through your other posts about him it seems you're not a fan of him dribbling with the ball (or poncing about as you put it) - which is fair enough, but is easily something that can be coached in/out of his game as he adapts to the league (13 starts iirc so far for him in the Prem)
 
billyiddo said:
Modric was 23 when we signed him and took a year before we saw the best of him and has continued to mature as a player season by season so age isn't really an issue at this point. Funny that you say a player only improves his ability to read the game from that age when this seems to be your cheif problem with regards to Lamelas game...

With regards to the other points - ability to read the game etc Lamela is just 2 behind Eriksen in terms of chances created this season (who i believe has the highest total for us) so that would suggest he's doing well in that regard.

Going through your other posts about him it seems you're not a fan of him dribbling with the ball (or poncing about as you put it) - which is fair enough, but is easily something that can be coached in/out of his game as he adapts to the league (13 starts iirc so far for him in the Prem)
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The idea of football is to win games by scoring goals. Dribbling past an opposition full back advances this objective, being a show pony and just doing endless fancy tricks before being dispossessed does not advance this objective whatsoever. Pace and power is a far more effective way of getting past players and Lamela lacks these.

We saw "something" from Modric straight away but personally I don't see a hint of anything from Lamela. He only looks half decent against inferior opposition.

I haven't got some kind of grudge against the guy, I'm just giving my opinion that Spurs fans shouldn't build their hopes up too much about him. I see him ending up either a top 10 Spanish Club or a top 6 Italian one - I just don't see enough there in him.
 
Bonsaiboy said:
Just can't see that at all, there's several players better than him in that position. He doesn't have the vision, situational awareness and speed of thought to play it.

Ok, yes, my mistake, he's 23 obviously. But by that age a player has pretty much become the player he will be and just improves in his ability to read the game.
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but.. he does.
 
Bonsaiboy said:
The idea of football is to win games by scoring goals. Dribbling past an opposition full back advances this objective, being a show pony and just doing endless fancy tricks before being dispossessed does not advance this objective whatsoever. Pace and power is a far more effective way of getting past players and Lamela lacks these.

We saw "something" from Modric straight away but personally I don't see a hint of anything from Lamela. He only looks half decent against inferior opposition.

I haven't got some kind of grudge against the guy, I'm just giving my opinion that Spurs fans shouldn't build their hopes up too much about him. I see him ending up either a top 10 Spanish Club or a top 6 Italian one - I just don't see enough there in him.
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As much as you saw something in Modric there were those who didn't (there were even posters who maintained he wasn't all that right up until he left for Madrid) it's the same scenario with Lamela right now. You don't rate him whilst others do. I don't think anyone is saying he's the finished article or that he has been amazing, just that he has shown potential and played to a decent enough level in the team thus far.

i don't agree that he looks like a show pony or any other such descriptions - he's a skillful player who likes to use that to beat players - he creates chances for those around him, he drives forward, creates space and can pass the ball well - does he do all that effectively all the time? No, he doesn't but then he is not the finished article, he's on a learning curve BUT he has shown himself capable. He also works hard in closing down and covers a lot of ground - he doesn't stand around with his hands on his hips waiting for the ball.

Atm, for me, i think it's about him learning what is the correct thing to do in any given circumstance - and that is clearly something which will come to him in time.
 
I think it is time to take a loss and send him back to Italy. I still think we can get 18m back for him.
 
looked the most likely to create a goalscoring opportunity tonight - 3 nicely threaded through balls unlucky to be intercepted
 
He needs a wake up call, because too often he's not playing with the right amount of urgency. I would agree with Rorshach though, this is effectively his first season in the Premier League, no point sending him packing just yet.
 
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90291Spur said:
Like we did with Bale.
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Bale looked very good when he signed and only got worse as he got injured. I remember fulhammaway in his first season and he looked like the player we see now

Lamella at no point in the league has looked like a quality player IMO. He has mainly looked flashy with an inability to have a positive impact on the game. Yes he has a few assist and fair play, but when you comoare him with other attacking options he really doesn't cut it so far
 
Poor player. Certainly expect better decision making and a goal threat. But see nothing. Defensive liability, headless chicken for a winger doesn't seem to know what a cross is. We need to off-load now before Levy loses more on his investment.

Today if Poch decided we needed to be more solid and play Eriksen centrally and drop Soldado then my choice to play LM would have been Townsend, Rose, Dembele, Chadli then Lamela depending on availability. We needed pace and directness to expose Ivanovic and make Oscar track back.
 
To people that keep comparing him to Ronaldo when he was first at utd... Are you having a laugh?

Did you even watch Ronaldo back then?

He had exceptional skill, pace and strength, what he didn't have was end product, Lamela doesn't have end product as well, but he also doesn't have exceptional skill pace and strength (all of which in his case are average or slightly above), if he improves his end product he will be a good/very good player, comparing him to Ronaldo back then is a joke.
 
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