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Harry Kane MBE

DeanoAustin said:
Modric left in 2012 and Bale left in 2014. We had our best CL run in 2019. We didn’t have that CL run because we sold those two and reinvested wisely. In fact, it’s arguable that if we hung on to both and put them in Poch’s team, we’d have won a league and maybe a CL. The only one of the 7 who replaced Bale that really was worth much was Eriksen and he cost 10 or 12 million which was a fee I dare say we could have afforded without offloading Bale.

If you sell Kane, you have to do it because you believe you’ll use the funds to strengthen the squad overall. I’ve no faith we’ll do that because we never have. And you take away a world class player who we have absolutely no chance of replacing with a player of similar quality because, to borrow Gareth Crooks phrase, you’re selling Elvis in the hope of signing The Beatles. Problem is, last time we signed S Club 7.

Then the argument becomes, “well we’ve always improved eventually when we’ve sold our best players so we should continue to sell our best players”. Correlation does not equal causation. It’s a daft argument and, funnily enough, may be part of the reason why we can’t get over the line in the big games. Had we held on to a Bale, Berbatov or Modric would we have actually won some silverware? And I’m not counting the 2008 League Cup.

The argument for selling Kane, which seems to gather momentum after each defeat, is similar to the “rip it up and start again. Play the kids instead of these overpaid prima donnas” argument that a certain section of all supporters seem to default to when things are going wrong.
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You're equating cost with quality, bale, Eriksen and kane cost us peanuts.
Our big money signings have, i'll be kind here, not worked out.
There's two things often overlooked when the discussion about our top players leaving,
one they don't want to be here,
two, would we be trying to find an out and out replacement?
Why would we, why put ourselves in that position again. We aren't going to find a better player than kane, Eriksen or bale to fill those positions. So you adapt, you spread the strength through out the team.
For a club of our size losing one player should not be a disaster.
 
glasgowspur said:
You're equating cost with quality, bale, Eriksen and kane cost us peanuts.
Our big money signings have, i'll be kind here, not worked out.
There's two things often overlooked when the discussion about our top players leaving,
one they don't want to be here,
two, would we be trying to find an out and out replacement?
Why would we, why put ourselves in that position again. We aren't going to find a better player than kane, Eriksen or bale to fill those positions. So you adapt, you spread the strength through out the team.
For a club of our size losing one player should not be a disaster.
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So why do we need to sell Kane to fund it? We can afford those lower cost players without selling him.

Losing Kane would not be a disaster for us. We'd move on. But it would set us back. Just like any club. Liverpool lose Van Dijk and they are weaker. City lose De Bruyne and they are weaker. That's why they aren't considering it. You don't sell your best players without good reason.

And remember, the transfer market is a bit of a lottery. For every Toby and Jan, there's been a Wimmer or Chiriches, for every Dembele there's been a Stambouli, for every Son, there has been a N'Jie or N'Koudou.
 
DeanoAustin said:
So why do we need to sell Kane to fund it? We can afford those lower cost players without selling him.

Losing Kane would not be a disaster for us. We'd move on. But it would set us back. Just like any club. Liverpool lose Van Dijk and they are weaker. City lose De Bruyne and they are weaker. That's why they aren't considering it. You don't sell your best players without good reason.

And remember, the transfer market is a bit of a lottery. For every Toby and Jan, there's been a Wimmer or Chiriches, for every Dembele there's been a Stambouli, for every Son, there has been a N'Jie or N'Koudou.
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I hope now Levy is taking a back seat our transfers improve a bit. Certainly seen a better ratio of good to bad players last 12 months compared to the previous 5 years.
 
DeanoAustin said:
So why do we need to sell Kane to fund it? We can afford those lower cost players without selling him.

Losing Kane would not be a disaster for us. We'd move on. But it would set us back. Just like any club. Liverpool lose Van Dijk and they are weaker. City lose De Bruyne and they are weaker. That's why they aren't considering it. You don't sell your best players without good reason.

And remember, the transfer market is a bit of a lottery. For every Toby and Jan, there's been a Wimmer or Chiriches, for every Dembele there's been a Stambouli, for every Son, there has been a N'Jie or N'Koudou.
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The good reason is that he doesn't want to be here.
And i question just how strong we are with him, how many trophies is it again?
 
Lilbaz said:
I've got an insane idea, why not sell our bad players and try to replace them with better ones? Rather than sell our best players and replace them with not as good ones?

Then see if we can improve.
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You can buy and sell all you like but you will always fail when your star players who you have built a team a round never turn up in the most important games.
 
glasgowspur said:
The good reason is that he doesn't want to be here.
And i question just how strong we are with him, how many trophies is it again?
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He didn’t want to be here last summer as the team stank and we had no manager. I think there’s a reasonable chance he stays if we get top 4 and we remain competitive. I don’t blame him for wanting to leave if the team doesn’t show any sign of challenging. Absolute madness considering selling him ahead of the rest of the squad. It’s like Emirates Marketing Project selling De Bruyne because they haven’t won the champions league and blaming him because he’s the best player.
 
Talking about Wanting to sell Kane is a bit pointless ( i m o), he will only get sold if he wants to leave and someone gives us the price we demand.
 
parklane1 said:
Talking about Wanting to sell Kane is a bit pointless ( i m o), he will only get sold if he wants to leave and someone gives us the price we demand.
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Personally I think he’ll leave for free at the end of his current contract. If he signs another he knows he’ll be locked in for his absolute “prime” but not signing one will allow him to see what happens with Conte and move on if it doesn’t amount to anything. Harry is no doubt earning enough for him / his family, why would he sign another one? Kane can stick around and see what’s good (and ideally achieve the dream with us), however if there’s more of the same he’ll have been in the right to ensure his other options are still open by not continuing to prove himself out of other potential moves.
 
spurspinter1 said:
Personally I think he’ll leave for free at the end of his current contract. If he signs another he knows he’ll be locked in for his absolute “prime” but not signing one will allow him to see what happens with Conte and move on if it doesn’t amount to anything. Harry is no doubt earning enough for him / his family, why would he sign another one? Kane can stick around and see what’s good (and ideally achieve the dream with us), however if there’s more of the same he’ll have been in the right to ensure his other options are still open by not continuing to prove himself out of other potential moves.
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Nothing wrong with that
He leaves us at 31 and maybe gets a mega payday
 
Robbo said:
Barring serious injury, I think Kane will be playing at the highest level for many more years. He's got a brilliant footballing brain that allows him to adapt (as he's already shown) as he gets older. I wouldn't be surprised if he's still got a bit part somewhere high up in ten years.
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yes, he's like Zlatan in that way, so far ahead of everyone else that age will only, slowly, chip away at his advantage
 
spurspinter1 said:
Personally I think he’ll leave for free at the end of his current contract. If he signs another he knows he’ll be locked in for his absolute “prime” but not signing one will allow him to see what happens with Conte and move on if it doesn’t amount to anything. Harry is no doubt earning enough for him / his family, why would he sign another one? Kane can stick around and see what’s good (and ideally achieve the dream with us), however if there’s more of the same he’ll have been in the right to ensure his other options are still open by not continuing to prove himself out of other potential moves.
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I tend to agree, the only issue I can think of is how a new contract would insulate him financially against a career ending injury. Obviously a gentleman’s agreement won’t suffice and a performance related release clause would be open to abuse.
The other side of the coin is would Levy be prepared to lose him on a free, feels like a potentially difficult stand off if not?
 
City have nailed down Haaland then.

Don’t see him at Liverpool nor Arsenal. Chelsea will be a nothing and he has pooh poohed United.

So it’s Spurs for a season, lift the World Cup with Angleterre then off to Saudi Sportswashing Machine to chase down Shearers records.
 
johnola said:
City have nailed down Haaland then.

Don’t see him at Liverpool nor Arsenal. Chelsea will be a nothing and he has pooh poohed United.

So it’s Spurs for a season, lift the World Cup with Angleterre then off to Saudi Sportswashing Machine to chase down Shearers records.
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Yeah the WC will probably be a factor for him too. He knows what he's got at Spurs, and how those surroundings will benefit his WC preparations. While he's good enough for any team, there will be an element of uncertainty to a club change four months before the WC.
 
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