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Glasgow Rangers
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jaysea67
Erik Edman
They haven't taken on the debt. They are required to give continuing employment on existing terms to players and other employees. The newco's position is that the players were obliged to transfer to the newco - but that seems highly questionable. Besides the physical assets, the newco will have acquired the database of Rangers' season ticket holders and members and the rights to Rangers' website, badges, etc.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
true, but not beyond saving, without the old firm the tv revenue will disappear, without that, in 3 years time i'd expect the SFL to be on a par with the League of Wales, I really don't think any Scottish football fan would want that, its only 45 years remember since Celtic won the European Cup
if Rangers go to the wall, many will follow
The question is what Scotland wants. A competitive and interesting league or one or two flagships to compete in Europe?
The money coming into the bigger leagues basically makes it impossible for Celtic or Rangers to compete with the best anymore. It might be time for Scottish football to realise that it isn't much better than the bottom half of the Championship. Letting one or two clubs have all the money can only be described as papering over the cracks. Reforms are much needed to improve the emergence of talent and to make the league interesting for anyone outside Glasgow.
The money coming into the bigger leagues basically makes it impossible for Celtic or Rangers to compete with the best anymore. It might be time for Scottish football to realise that it isn't much better than the bottom half of the Championship. Letting one or two clubs have all the money can only be described as papering over the cracks. Reforms are much needed to improve the emergence of talent and to make the league interesting for anyone outside Glasgow.
Leeds Spur
Banned
I disagree.
Hibs, Hearts, Killy, Aberdeen and Motherwell are all decent clubs with good support, Dundee as well.
fudge the Old Firm off and have a decent sustainable league.
The SPL quality is brick anyway......and this card is overplayed.
Eredivisie is great standard and they are on brick wages..........you've bought the Premier League patter hook line and sinker.
One sided drubbings are NOT entertaining.
Leeds Spur
Banned
The Championship is a FAR FAR FAR higher standard than the Scottish SPL....no doubt.
Just look at where the old firm sign players from!!
Any team in the championship would walk the SPL minus the old firm.......no doubt in my mind.
Rangers in crisis: SFA, SPL and SFL reveal proposals to overhaul game to allow Ibrox newco into First Division
Scottish football's three governing bodies have issued a joint statement which reveal proposals which include increasing the size of the the Scottish Premier League, a restructuring of the leagues, the introduction play-offs and a change in the distribution of monies.
Charles Green's Rangers newco, who were denied admission to the SPL, will discover on Friday whether they will be playing in the Irn-Bru First Division or Third Division next season.
Around half of the SFL clubs who have made their views known are looking for Ally McCoist's side to go into the Third Division, despite Scottish Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan warning of the "slow, lingering death" of the game if the Govan club were not voted into the second tier.
SFL chief executive David Longmuir has spent this week negotiating a package of reforms, including play-offs and a change in the share of monies and voting rights, with the SFA and the SPL, which he hopes will persuade his member clubs to allow the new Rangers to start again in the First Division.
After an SFL board meeting at Hampden today, where the proposals were discussed before being sent out to the SFL clubs for consideration, a statement was released which read:
"The Scottish FA, the Scottish Premier League and the Scottish Football League have, for the past two years, been involved in a series of discussions at Board level with the objective of securing radical and co-ordinated reconstruction of the game in this country.
"Today, we are asking clubs to consider a package of reforms which have the potential to rejuvenate Scottish football at senior level and safeguard its future at a time when uncertainty and fear prevail.
"The proposals are based on five principles previously outlined by the Scottish FA as key to streamlining governance, ensuring greater financial distribution and above all, providing better entertainment, enhanced competition and value for money for supporters.
"Upon agreement by the respective Boards, the proposals will be placed before the SPL and SFL clubs for approval, to be activated immediately and phased in over a two-year period.
"A working party will be formed, including three representatives from both the SPL and SFL, to devise a new structure for the senior professional game in Scotland.
"This group will have an independent Chairman appointed by the Scottish FA. They will be tasked with delivering by 30th November, 2012, a recommendation for structural change effective 2013/14. This will incorporate primarily:-
"a) The introduction of an enlarged top tier for Scottish Senior Professional Football.
"b) A new detailed model for senior professional football in Scotland including number of divisions; number of clubs per division; number of matches per season per division; number of promotion and relegation places per division and the introduction and operation of play-offs.
"c) An all-through distribution model providing certainty for all clubs as to the percentage of distributable income which will be received. As a minimum, clubs in the current third and fourth divisions will receive the settlement agreement proportion guaranteed as per the current arrangement. In addition, the value and number of parachute payments to relegated clubs will be considered.
"d) The introduction of a pyramid for Scottish football to provide a route for licensed clubs to enter the new structure effective 2014/2015
"In the event that a final decision is not reached by 30th November, 2012, the Scottish FA will seek to implement a new structure in time for the 2013/2014 season. The members of the working party, including Chairman, will be announced in the near future and will ensure consultation with all stakeholders prior to final recommendations being made."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/9392757/Rangers-in-crisis-SFA-SPL-and-SFL-reveal-proposals-to-overhaul-game-to-allow-Ibrox-newco-into-First-Division.html
Scottish football's three governing bodies have issued a joint statement which reveal proposals which include increasing the size of the the Scottish Premier League, a restructuring of the leagues, the introduction play-offs and a change in the distribution of monies.
Charles Green's Rangers newco, who were denied admission to the SPL, will discover on Friday whether they will be playing in the Irn-Bru First Division or Third Division next season.
Around half of the SFL clubs who have made their views known are looking for Ally McCoist's side to go into the Third Division, despite Scottish Football Association chief executive Stewart Regan warning of the "slow, lingering death" of the game if the Govan club were not voted into the second tier.
SFL chief executive David Longmuir has spent this week negotiating a package of reforms, including play-offs and a change in the share of monies and voting rights, with the SFA and the SPL, which he hopes will persuade his member clubs to allow the new Rangers to start again in the First Division.
After an SFL board meeting at Hampden today, where the proposals were discussed before being sent out to the SFL clubs for consideration, a statement was released which read:
"The Scottish FA, the Scottish Premier League and the Scottish Football League have, for the past two years, been involved in a series of discussions at Board level with the objective of securing radical and co-ordinated reconstruction of the game in this country.
"Today, we are asking clubs to consider a package of reforms which have the potential to rejuvenate Scottish football at senior level and safeguard its future at a time when uncertainty and fear prevail.
"The proposals are based on five principles previously outlined by the Scottish FA as key to streamlining governance, ensuring greater financial distribution and above all, providing better entertainment, enhanced competition and value for money for supporters.
"Upon agreement by the respective Boards, the proposals will be placed before the SPL and SFL clubs for approval, to be activated immediately and phased in over a two-year period.
"A working party will be formed, including three representatives from both the SPL and SFL, to devise a new structure for the senior professional game in Scotland.
"This group will have an independent Chairman appointed by the Scottish FA. They will be tasked with delivering by 30th November, 2012, a recommendation for structural change effective 2013/14. This will incorporate primarily:-
"a) The introduction of an enlarged top tier for Scottish Senior Professional Football.
"b) A new detailed model for senior professional football in Scotland including number of divisions; number of clubs per division; number of matches per season per division; number of promotion and relegation places per division and the introduction and operation of play-offs.
"c) An all-through distribution model providing certainty for all clubs as to the percentage of distributable income which will be received. As a minimum, clubs in the current third and fourth divisions will receive the settlement agreement proportion guaranteed as per the current arrangement. In addition, the value and number of parachute payments to relegated clubs will be considered.
"d) The introduction of a pyramid for Scottish football to provide a route for licensed clubs to enter the new structure effective 2014/2015
"In the event that a final decision is not reached by 30th November, 2012, the Scottish FA will seek to implement a new structure in time for the 2013/2014 season. The members of the working party, including Chairman, will be announced in the near future and will ensure consultation with all stakeholders prior to final recommendations being made."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/9392757/Rangers-in-crisis-SFA-SPL-and-SFL-reveal-proposals-to-overhaul-game-to-allow-Ibrox-newco-into-First-Division.html
I take it that's what numerous fans wanted?
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
25 of the 30 clubs apparently voted them into the 3rd rather than the 1st division.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Finally, amidst all the embarassing scandals, the relentless bullying of the smaller clubs by the men at the top of the game and the machinations of the governing bodies trying desperately to keep their failing cash cow afloat, Scottish football has made the right choice. Sporting integrity- you get what you deserve. A win for the fans, though probably not for the financial health of Scottish football.
I don't doubt for one second that the slime running the SPL will now just try to form an 'SPL 2' and invite Rangers into it, though.
If by Scottish football you mean the Old firm, yes. This decision can help bring about life to everyone else in Scotland that's involved in football and have an actual league instead of just two teams.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
RANGERS STATEMENT ON CLUB WEBSITE
"Rangers' future remains uncertain after the Scottish Football League clubs voted against the Light Blues playing in the First Division next season.
"At a meeting at Hampden today, the 30 member clubs agreed to accept Rangers into the SFL but voted against the SFL board being allowed to broker a deal with the SPL and SFA over new structures and procedures which would also include Rangers playing in Division One.
"It is now understood that on the back of a briefing SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster and SFA counterpart Stewart Regan gave to clubs last week that the SPL will introduce a plan for SPL 2 - which would include Rangers - and invite existing Division One members to join."
"Rangers' future remains uncertain after the Scottish Football League clubs voted against the Light Blues playing in the First Division next season.
"At a meeting at Hampden today, the 30 member clubs agreed to accept Rangers into the SFL but voted against the SFL board being allowed to broker a deal with the SPL and SFA over new structures and procedures which would also include Rangers playing in Division One.
"It is now understood that on the back of a briefing SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster and SFA counterpart Stewart Regan gave to clubs last week that the SPL will introduce a plan for SPL 2 - which would include Rangers - and invite existing Division One members to join."
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Oh, it'll do wonders for the competitiveness of Scottish football, no doubt. Probably will boost fan attendances as well, which could resuscitate a lot of dying clubs as the gate money starts trickling back in.
But that 16-20 million quid that stands to be lost due to the cancellation and subsequent non-renewal of the TV deals? That'll really hurt the accounts, there's no getting around that.
Make no mistake, I'm genuinely happy about this decision. For once, something in football's made me feel less jaded about it all. Funny that it came from Scotland, but there you have it. My concern is only for clubs like Dunfermline and Hamilton Accies- how do they balance the books now? There'll be more than a few years of austerity.
Still, better that than the slow death they were undergoing anyway as the Old Firm sucked the life out of the game. Now there is light at the end of the tunnel, and genuine hope for most of the teams involved.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
I think they will turn it down. There's no way fans would accept a deal like that. They'd simply boycott the games. The fans of every club save for Rangers, including Celtic.