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Fixture & Ticket News 2016/17

All great points, and as has been suggested we have become a victim of our recent success.

Up until last season, as a Bronzie living up north, the missus and me were able to get to 10 away days a season. Unfortunately we have already had been unable to secure tickets for Everton, WBA and United for the very first time. Last season it was Villa for the first time.

Looks like for the forseeable future, Members will be left with Stoke,Middlesborough and Sunderland, probably Swansea and depending on what is riding on the last day, maybe Hull
 
Anyone on here applied for Hull tickets and had LPs added yet?
It seems the LPs often get added at the weekend although ballot results aren't announced until the Tuesday.
Nothing has been added to my account yet. I've already missed out on Leicester and Swansea. I'll be totally fed up if I can't get a ticket for a mid week December game against Hull.
 
tynesidespur said:
This is how I see it. Along similar lines I've been going to my "local" away games for the last 20 years. I haven't had a problem getting a ticket for Saudi Sportswashing Machine/Sunderland/Middlesbrough until last season. Saudi Sportswashing Machine, obviously was because we thought we might be lifting the title on the last day but it continued into the Middlesbrough game this season.

It doesn't sit right with me that I've sat through 0-4, 1-5, 1-6, 1-7 defeats up here and now because we've improved (and add in the cap) I'm now being bumped because guys who go to home games have decided they fancy the trip north despite not bothering for the last 20 years.

I think the cap has accelerated something that has been happening anyway over the last 2-3 years.
Up until the cup semi-final against Sheff Utd in 2014 I could basically apply for and get a ticket for any away game outside of London. For that game I was unsuccessful until Spurs got a larger allocation later on. I then applied for Wembley and expected to get a ticket, having had enough LPs for the finals and semi-finals of 2008/9/10/11. I nearly fell on the floor when I discovered I wasn't successful. From that point forwards its been proving more & more difficult to be successful to get tickets.

My LPs have remained pretty constant over the last 10 years, I go to something between 10-15 games per season. As I say that's been enough to go to Wembley cup finals etc but it appears that I'm being overtaken by people who are able to attend more games. My theory is that there is now a younger generation of Spurs fans who are going to games, have few outgoings so can spend more heavily on attendance and as a bonus are seeing Spurs at their most successful since the mid 80s. Add that to the £30 cap and you've got a perfect storm.

I can't see a fair way to solve things for people like me as it would be unfair to genuine ST holders who do want to attend more away games. I'll just have to suck it up and get on with it and use accounts like @hotspurtickets to get any spares. I have tried to go to more away games this season but have found pretty much every away game has gone to ST holders only! If you can't get a ticket how can you increase your LPs??
What I don't like is that there seems to be a significant number of people who are buying away tickets with no intention of attending the game. They are using it to accrue LPs to keep them at the head of the queue for games they do want to go to. That cannot be fair in anyone's book.
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fudge me! Are we living parallel lives? This is my situation exactly. To say I'm starting to feel a little disenfranchised is an understatement.

I know that no system is going to be perfect but over the past couple of years we've had years (make that decades) of loyalty wiped out by the cull, loyalty points/more expensive membership made worthless by the lottery for home tickets and the ability to rebuild your standing in the eyes of the club taken away by a combinstion of success and the cap. I've consoled myself recently with the thought that I'm vitually at the top of the season ticket waiting list and will therefore be able to get a seat in the new South Stand but I'm now seriously concerned that this will be turned into a lottery and I'll end up missing out on this as well.


Jordinho said:
Man U have a system where they bring staff to check people's ID. If you buy an away ticket and can't make it you have to notify the ticket office in advance or you'll be banned from going to away games.

There was a story about a guy who lost his season ticket after falling ill and not calling it in, which was a bit harsh, but I'm in favour of the ID. I'll never be able to go as an away supporter to anything but the brickest fixtures, but I think it's the only way to stop the hoarding of LPs.
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Much as I hate Man U, I have to say I think they've got this right (maybe with a bit more sympathy for (proveable) last minute problems with attendance).
 
The cap has an impact because it meant to make it more affordable for real fans

Picture the scene where an average Spurs season ticket holder has paid £1000 before a ball has been kicked.

Then you get someone who prefers the way one for whatever reasons (better atmosphere for a start) and goes to them ones instead if the home ones... it's actually cheaper for them to do 20 away games now by some way...

I averaged 30 games a season for a long time when we were brick. I also got a season ticket about ago and had the OK of the seats. We suddenly started to get better and better and low and behold it hit harder to get tickets. In my case I also wanted to spend more time with the missu and family so cut back on the away games but still did 5 a season plus most home games ( and sold it into local lads for cost or less when I couldnt make it)

This season I've missed a few home games due to a Holliday and fancied Chelsea for exactly the reason @Libero said. I got a ticket because I have enough points. The reality is my second child do due the next day and all likelihood is if I go I won't be drinking and I'm not sure I could deal with that ame without a few shandies

If I can't go my mate will sell it either to a mate locally as we have a fan club or at a Spurs pub for face value to someone who has made the effort to go/taken the chance

I wouldn't have contemplted paying the £60 last season but I have paid it a few times before. I also paid to go to young boys in Switzerland which costs me over a grand as I took the missus. I also paid a premium in Madrid as I sold my ticket in the Spurs end to a lad who was desperate as I could get a ticket in the Madrid section for £75

I agree massively that the tickets should be done on loyalty alone but the current system doesn't align points correct for season tickets and on a more sober note it doesn't take into account those of us that saw us lose 6-1 at Saudi Sportswashing Machine in what was a late kick off iirc... or those of us that went to plenty of shocking away games when no one wanted a ticket
 
me three, same every week!

I actually managed to get in, but it wouldn't let me select my own highest price, defaulted to West or East Lower. I logged out and can't get back in now.
 
Anyone think it's unfair that you lose all of your LP's once you go from member to ST holder? Even if you retained just 10% of them so you don't start from the beginning again with nothing.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Yep. I had over 200 LP's when I was a member (went to at least 2-3 away games a season and not the glamorous London ones!). This is my second season as an ST holder and I'm down to about 75 LP's.
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You have still moved ahead in the queue though. Instead of being behind all ST holders and some members, you're now only behind ST holders with more points. Any game that would have gone to members you are guaranteed a ticket.
 
Jordinho said:
You have still moved ahead in the queue though. Instead of being behind all ST holders and some members, you're now only behind ST holders with more points. Any game that would have gone to members you are guaranteed a ticket.
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Oh yeah I realise I'm in a better position now than before and not expecting any sympathy from the members, was just pointing out that it's far from a guarantee even when you become a ST holder as you have to play catch up with the older ST holders. Most of the games so far have been ST holders only.
 
It's gonna be fun when we're in the new stadium with GHod knows how many season ticket holders (me amongst them I hope), we get to a cup final and the allocation's too small to accommodate all of them...........
 
mephitis said:
It's gonna be fun when we're in the new stadium with GHod knows how many season ticket holders (me amongst them I hope), we get to a cup final and the allocation's too small to accommodate all of them...........
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No worries mate as they are a lot of supporters ( including some ST) who are not bothered about winning any cups and probably not bother because of that. ;)
 
Some good suggestions in this thread.

I think harmonising the loyalty points is a good idea. ST holders can get more for renewing ie 25pts and members 15pts to reflect their up front commitment and also it would facilitate ST and members being able to retain their points if they convert one way or another. (losing all your points now is crazy).
I think the 15/20% away tickets to members is also a good idea, just to keep the away game hope alive and to taste the great experience of an awayday.

I dont think you can bash the idea of a £30 away cap. Its like saying i wish they were £100 so i had more chance of going. In isolation it is a great thing for travelling fans.

I assume points are given for loyalty:) ....so if someone has overtaken you or because ST holders are now deciding to go away more, then both groups have a right too....they are by definition more 'loyal'. I know you'll say 'well i went when we were brick' but as we became good surely you had a head start on these jcl in the 5 year loop? So if you have started going less because of other loyalties,(kids, family etc) then that is your choice, although chappeau to you for making that choice.

The amount of points per game could definately be looked at, with certain criteria meaning more or less points.

The other thing that needs sorting is the re-selling of tickets. (inc abuse of ST's). The ticket-exchange needs to be brought back in house and i'd be happy with a £5 and £5 system. ie £5 charge for the seller and £5 charge for buyer (all at face value, of course!). ST and members can both buy and sell, inc away tickets and the loyalty points re-distributed accordingly.

What then needs to happen is ALL re-selling needs to be forced through this channel. Modern technology (ie finger print tech, tickets loaded onto phones etc) could enable this. Too many ST are cash cowing their position, earning money and loyalty points too boot without attending, (Ironically the lowering of the away cap has actually just increased their profit margin) that is not loyalty and includes profiteering from fellow supporters (sad fckers)

Perhaps the opening of the new stadium could be the point where the club can really iron out the wrinkles in the current set-up?
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
The other thing that needs sorting is the re-selling of tickets. (inc abuse of ST's). The ticket-exchange needs to be brought back in house and i'd be happy with a £5 and £5 system. ie £5 charge for the seller and £5 charge for buyer (all at face value, of course!). ST and members can both buy and sell, inc away tickets and the loyalty points re-distributed accordingly.
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There must be 500+ tickets on Stubhub right now for Saturday's game. Given all the people who missed out on the ballot due to not having enough LPs for this Cat A game, there must be a fairer way to re-allocate seats from ST holders who can no longer attend.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
There must be 500+ tickets on Stubhub right now for Saturday's game. Given all the people who missed out on the ballot due to not having enough LPs for this Cat A game, there must be a fairer way to re-allocate seats from ST holders who can no longer attend.
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I know its not in place at the mo but the in-house ticket exchange (like the good old days) is the way to go.
 
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