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Europa League - Round of 32: Fiorentina (ITA)

Re: The Race for Europa League

Spursalot said:
I like the idea, but realistically we shouldn't have a priority competition until after Christmas. That's when we'll know how our top four challenge is going and we should easily qualify for the Europa knockouts without too much hassle.

The Christmas period of games is brutal, and is usually when you know how your season is going to end up looking.
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Spot on, it's all about squad management early season. Got to be fresh at the business end of the season. Not suffer burnout just as things get interesting like we did under AVB.
EL is going to be even harder to win this year with the added prize of CL place. More likely that the CL dropouts will take the comp more seriously.
 
Re: The Race for Europa League - Playoff Draw Friday at 12

dingdongo said:
Does winning plenty of group games every year against some half-decent but not great sides still push up our coefficient much or can we only really improve it by beating better ranked teams like Lyon etc. in the later stages?

I'm just thinking about the day when we get back in the CL ;)
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It's not a question of increasing our coefficient so much as maintaining it. That's the important thing. But it makes no difference whether we play Barcelona or Bournemouth. We would get the same number of points for a win against either and the same number of point for each stage of the competition that we progress to.
 
Re: The Race for Europa League - Playoff Draw Friday at 12

My hope is for Molde or Rosenborg from Norway. Will be pretty easy opponents and not to long trip.
 
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F10 said:
My hope is for Molde or Rosenborg from Norway. Will be pretty easy opponents and not to long trip.
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Are Rosenborg no good these days?

Used to be a dangerous, Champions League seasoned opponent.
 
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St Johnstone, HJK, Molde, Rosenborg, Rio Ave or Lokeren with the away leg first would be my picks if they all get through of course
 
Re: The Race for Europa League - Playoff Draw Friday at 12

dingdongo said:
Does winning plenty of group games every year against some half-decent but not great sides still push up our coefficient much or can we only really improve it by beating better ranked teams like Lyon etc. in the later stages?

I'm just thinking about the day when we get back in the CL ;)
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The quality of the opposition is not a factor in accumulating coefficient points. Last year we got a decent haul of points, despite not progressing past the last 16, mainly due to winning all our group matches. There are however bonus points allocated for reaching the later rounds.

For the current season we are 19th in UEFA's rankings. Next season we should move ahead of Inter Milan (who lose the points from their CL winning season) and AC Milan (who aren't in European competition this season). However, several teams just below us are competing in this season's CL and therefore likely to get more coefficient points than us (Basel, Zenit, Emirates Marketing Project, Bayer Leverkusen). I think we are probably competing with Lyon for 20th spot. The following season we will lose the points we earned during our CL season so, for the sake of our ranking, we could do with amassing plenty of points this season and next.
 
Re: The Race for Europa League - Playoff Draw Friday at 12

jimmyb said:
Are Rosenborg no good these days?

Used to be a dangerous, Champions League seasoned opponent.
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No they are a bit **** now really.
After legendary Nils Arne Eggen, theyve had about 12 managers in 12 years.

Their success was based on continuity and a strong club spirit, but now its mostly chaos. Molde is quite a bit stronger nowadays.
 
Re: The Race for Europa League - Playoff Draw Friday at 12

Hoping for St. Johnstone but more than likely we will get Dynamo Moscow or someone of the like tricky tie and long travel it is Spurs so.........
 
Re: The Race for Europa League - Playoff Draw Friday at 12

Is the hull game on tv? Fancy watching Livermore and hudd...
 
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Can we not have a new thread for Europa league this season? kinda hard to determine where I need to commence reading from.
 
Re: The Race for Europa League - Playoff Draw Friday at 12

7percent said:
Can we not have a new thread for Europa league this season? kinda hard to determine where I need to commence reading from.
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We'll see when/if we make it there. First there's a playoff ;)

For this thread you can start here.

Both Molde and Rosenborg have lost on aggregate today, so no Norwegian teams in Europe this season.
 
Re: The Race for Europa League - Playoff Draw Friday at 12

Glad to see Hudd and Livermore through. Good times for Hull City Tigers.
 
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Re: The Race for Europa League - Playoff Draw Friday at 12

Ermis Aradippou 0 - 2 (0-3 on agg) Young Boys
Chornomorets O. 0 - 0 (0-2 on agg) RNK Split
Esbjerg fB 2 - 2 (2-2 on agg) Ruch Chorzow
FC Krasnodar 3 - 0 (8-1 on agg) Diosgyor
Liberec 2 - 3 (2-6 on agg) Astra Giurgiu
Molde 1 - 2 (2-3 on agg) Zorya
AIK 0 - 3 (1-4 on agg) FC Astana
Chikhura 2 - 3 (2-3 on agg) FK Neftchi
Ironi Kiryat Shmona 1 - 2 (2-3 on agg) Dinamo Moscow
Lech Poznan 0 - 0 (0-1 on agg) Stjarnan
Rosenborg 1 - 1 (1-1 on agg) Karabukspor
SKN St. Polten 2 - 3 (2-4 on agg) PSV Eindhoven
Shakhtyor Soligorsk 2 - 2 (7-4 on agg) Zulte-Waregem
CFR Cluj 0 - 2 (0-3 on agg) Dinamo Minsk
Hajduk Split 3 - 0 (5-4 on agg) Shakhter Karagandy
Spartak Trnava 1 - 1 (3-2 on agg) St.Johnstone
Atromitos 1 - 3 (3-4 on agg) FK Sarajevo
Broendby IF 0 - 2 (0-5 on agg) Club Brugge
Viktoria Plzen 1 - 4 (2-5 on agg) Petrolul Ploiesti
Asteras Tripolis 3 - 1 (3-2 on agg) Mainz 05
FH Hafnarfjordur 2 - 1 (3-5 on agg) Elfsborg
Hull City 2 - 1 (2-1 on agg) Trencin
Lyon 2 - 1 (6-2 on agg) Mlada Boleslav
Torino 4 - 0 (7-0 on agg) Brommapojkarna
Aberdeen 2 - 3 (2-5 on agg) Real Sociedad
Fk Metalurg Skopje 0 - 1 (0-4 on agg) Omonia Nicosia
Rio Ave 0 - 0 (1-0 on agg) IFK Gothenburg
Zimbru 0 - 0 (2-1 on agg) SV Groedig
Rijeka 4 - 0 (9-1 on agg) Vikingur

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Seeded teams                   coef.              Unseeded teams                 coef.
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Olympique Lyon           Fra  97.300              IF Elfsborg              Swe  11.265
Internazionale           Ita  95.387              DVSC Debrecen            Hun  10.325
Tottenham Hotspur        Eng  75.949              Omonia Nicosia           Cyp  10.150
PSV Eindhoven            Ned  64.862              Hajduk Split             Cro   9.925
Villarreal               Esp  53.542              Grasshoppers Zürich      Sui   9.645
FC Twente Enschede       Ned  50.862              FK Rostov                Rus   9.399
Metalist Kharkiv         Ukr  45.693              FK Krasnodar             Rus   9.399
PAOK Thessaloniki        Gre  37.720              NK Rijeka                Cro   8.925
Celtic                   Sco  36.813              PEC Zwolle               Ned   8.862
Club Brugge              Bel  32.260              KSC Lokeren              Bel   8.760
Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk    Ukr  32.193              Asteras Tripolis         Gre   8.720
Trabzonspor              Tur  31.340              Apollon Limassol         Cyp   8.650
Panathinaikos            Gre  30.220              Zorya Luhansk            Ukr   8.193
Sparta Praha             Cze  28.870              FK Aktobe                Kaz   8.150
Borussia Mönchengladbach Ger  25.328              AEL Limassol             Cyp   7.650
Real Sociedad            Esp  24.542              Garabag Agdam            Azb   7.575
Young Boys               Sui  24.145              HJK Helsinki             Fin   7.435
Dinamo Zagreb            Cro  23.925              Neftchi Baku             Azb   7.075
Lokomotiv Moscow         Rus  20.899              Astra Giurgiu            Rom   6.951
Rapid Wien               Aut  19.185              Petrolul Ploiesti        Rom   6.951
FC Zürich                Sui  18.645              Karabükspor              Tur   6.840
Nacional Funchal         Por  17.959              FC Midtjylland           Den   6.760
Maccabi Tel-Aviv         Isr  17.875              Dinamo Minsk             Bls   6.725
Sheriff Tiraspol         Mol  17.075              Ruch Chorzow             Pol   5.775
Hull City                Eng  16.949              FK Sarajevo              Bos   5.500
Partizan Belgrade        Srb  14.825              Shakhtior Saligorsk      Bls   5.225
Torino                   Ita  13.387              Spartak Trnava           Svk   5.200
Feyenoord                Ned  13.362              RNK Split                Cro   4.925
AS Saint-Étienne         Fra  12.800              Zimbru Chisinau          Mol   3.075
Rio Ave                  Por  12.459              FK Astana                Kaz   1.900
Dinamo Moscow            Rus  12.399              Stjarnan FC              Isl   1.350

Quite a few decent teams managed to scrape into the seeded group, thankfully.

They usually divide the teams into smaller groups before the draw is made, we'll see tomorrow.

Two additional conditions this season:

Ukrainian and Russian teams can't be drawn against each other.
Israeli teams must play their home games in a neutral venue (outside Israel).
 
Re: The Race for Europa League - Playoff Draw Friday at 12

Mainz really bottled it. German media likes to talk about how their league is the most competitive and balanced league, hence the best in the world, but their 7th best team can't even beat no name Greek team I've never heard of.
 
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Not the best and not the worst group of possible opponents. Hopefully we'll play 2nd leg at home. I hold my fists for it [-o<
 
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Tottenham received just under €6m from UEFA's financial distribution for last season's Europa League. That was €0.5 more than the previous season despite being knocked out one round earlier. The main reasons for the increase were our 100% record in last season's group stages and there being fewer English association teams to share the market pool with in the knockout rounds.

Full list for 2013/14 is here: http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/OfficialDocument/uefaorg/Finance/02/11/95/44/2119544_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Spurs will probably be the last English team in the foreseeable future to start the EL at the play-off round. UEFA have already announced that from next season more teams will receive automatic entry to the group stages. In future it's likely that 2 English teams will get direct entry to the group stages and the other team will start, as currently, in the 3rd qualifying round.
 
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