JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
Ah!
Oh dear.
Oh dear.
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Euro 2020
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lurker of old
Gus Poyet
When a country elects as PM someone who has publicly expressed racist opinions then it legitimises the open expression of such comments for others within that society.
What complete nonsense - I barely know where to start. I assume you are referring to the fact he read out Kipling's Mandalay?
What complete nonsense - I barely know where to start. I assume you are referring to the fact he read out Kipling's Mandalay?
lurker of old
Gus Poyet
Re Scara's epic rant (cunningly disguised as player ratings), I did think Sterling was poor last night. He doesn't pass, he doesn't look up, he runs head down into cul-de-sacs, and did so again and again. Kane always looks to bring others into the game, whereas Sterling is the reverse - just my view.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
He might be referring to watermelon comments and other stuff from before he was PM.
And as Neville pointed out this morning Boris said fans should be allowed to voice their displeasure at the taking the knee then comes out today and (rightly) condemns the racist abuse. He’s a hypocrite.
Seedy Ron
Jimmy Neighbour
Google?
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Congratulations to Italy, well deserved on the end I thought.
Should be no shame in this for England, though some fans (or "fans" if you prefer) are seemingly trying their hardest to bring shame into it.
England lost to a better team in the end. Not a better squad perhaps, not better individuals, but a better team. I think England got a bit overrated before the final, they had a significantly easier run, Germany probably the toughest opposition, and this Germany wasn't even to 5 best teams in the tournament. Italy got past both Belgium and Spain even though they had to dig in for sure.
Chiellini and Bonucci might be 70 years between them, but they're very good, with a very good partnership and all that experience. Verratti and Jorginho are great. Donnarumma quality. Insigne very good, Chiesa a joy and a lot of quality elsewhere too. And they work as a team, as a unit, they can play well in all phases of play really, can't say that about England.
Definitely a positive future there for England. Experience and imo even age is huge at the end of international tournaments, this England side should only get better in years to come.
Think Southgate got it a bit wrong in the final, though to be fair that's probably the first time that can be levelled at him this tournament.
Should be no shame in this for England, though some fans (or "fans" if you prefer) are seemingly trying their hardest to bring shame into it.
England lost to a better team in the end. Not a better squad perhaps, not better individuals, but a better team. I think England got a bit overrated before the final, they had a significantly easier run, Germany probably the toughest opposition, and this Germany wasn't even to 5 best teams in the tournament. Italy got past both Belgium and Spain even though they had to dig in for sure.
Chiellini and Bonucci might be 70 years between them, but they're very good, with a very good partnership and all that experience. Verratti and Jorginho are great. Donnarumma quality. Insigne very good, Chiesa a joy and a lot of quality elsewhere too. And they work as a team, as a unit, they can play well in all phases of play really, can't say that about England.
Definitely a positive future there for England. Experience and imo even age is huge at the end of international tournaments, this England side should only get better in years to come.
Think Southgate got it a bit wrong in the final, though to be fair that's probably the first time that can be levelled at him this tournament.
fernadez
Dean Austin
I admit I've never really supported England. From East London, black, nobody around here does. I see myself as more a Londoner than English. To us the St George's Cross just represents' skin head hooligans doing their causal racism and smashing brick up. It's a strange feeling to be apart from everyone, you just feel disconnected, I was born and raised here but I know it's not my home. How can a country that elects a man who is racist claim to be a home for all. I know people who were hoping that none of the black players messed up every game cause they knew what would happen.
Anyway, I had started to warm to this particular team, they all seem decent people and no clams, not the greatest team but likeable. No John Terrys.
Then the final whistle went and it all came back to me why I don't support England or feel English. All the clips of violence and the abuse online.
Anyway, I had started to warm to this particular team, they all seem decent people and no clams, not the greatest team but likeable. No John Terrys.
Then the final whistle went and it all came back to me why I don't support England or feel English. All the clips of violence and the abuse online.
Why is it hypocritical to hate racists but disagree with how to display that hatred?
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
I'm not going to put a like under that image, but I feel the same way about England.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Great post mate and its good to see that there are some who are thinking about the situation instead of just ranting about their pet hates. WELL Done.
DeanoAustin
Jimmy McCormick
I’d like to think I’m not one for virtue signalling and I’m about to do it but Jesus fudging Christ. Sickening. Absolute scum.
spurspinter1
Steve Carr
No surprise but some on here clearly enjoying posting more than if we'd have won, GHod forbid!
Key highlights:
- The manager is a "fraud" despite taking us to a WC semi and Euros final in succession
- Dier would have done better in midfield (no words on that one really...)
- Players deserve the cowardly racist abuse coming their way
At least this bunch of players turned up for a final, it's probably because as Spurs fans we're not used to seeing that in recent times. Maybe this board would have been more on side if the gaffer broke down in to tears after the semi and took the players walking on hot coals for team building purposes rather than actually preparing for the game. The hindsight specialists acting as if we were absolutely embarrassed making out that it should have been a walk in the park. Jokers.
The gall of suggesting chanting "you've let your country down" to the players when in fact a lot of the "fans" or the "everyone look at me, I'm English and don't support the team how edgy is that?!?!" phalanx could do with telling themselves that very notion.
Credit to the team and all involved, pens sometimes go your way, sometimes they don't. Young team with plenty more bites at the apple to come so there's a lot to look forward to.
Key highlights:
- The manager is a "fraud" despite taking us to a WC semi and Euros final in succession
- Dier would have done better in midfield (no words on that one really...)
- Players deserve the cowardly racist abuse coming their way
At least this bunch of players turned up for a final, it's probably because as Spurs fans we're not used to seeing that in recent times. Maybe this board would have been more on side if the gaffer broke down in to tears after the semi and took the players walking on hot coals for team building purposes rather than actually preparing for the game. The hindsight specialists acting as if we were absolutely embarrassed making out that it should have been a walk in the park. Jokers.
The gall of suggesting chanting "you've let your country down" to the players when in fact a lot of the "fans" or the "everyone look at me, I'm English and don't support the team how edgy is that?!?!" phalanx could do with telling themselves that very notion.
Credit to the team and all involved, pens sometimes go your way, sometimes they don't. Young team with plenty more bites at the apple to come so there's a lot to look forward to.
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
It’s hypocritical because I believe he is racist. But even if he isn’t, his comments played right into the hands of the booing racists.
Even if one is of the opinion that taking the knee is the wrong way to express that hatred, just ignore it, why boo people making a gesture to raise a point about racism and injustice.
Choose not to condemn the booing it and it feeds all the vile stuff that came out last night.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
He's made plenty of overtly racist statements and whether you like it or not, he is err meant to be a 'leader' you know someone who sets the example. So in your words "I don't know where to start." The man is an arsehole but I tell you what, he is the master of the dog whistle.
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Maybe they're booing the intrusion of politics into sport and believe it should be kept separate.
AuroRaman
Chris Armstrong
To be fair to the brickstains of humanity that walk amongst us, it’s a very confusing time. Do they boo the knee or cheer a Rashford/Sterling goal or post abuse online or celebrate an England win with non-white players in the team or try to hide racist tendencies with cowardly, weasel-like comments about black players or feel pride that their national team reached a final or…..
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
One thing needs to be understood, the knuckle draggers walk amongst us.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Daisuk
Dimitar Berbatov
Unfortunately they always have ..