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Barry Daines
All comps, they are in the links I posted
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Nico Claesen
Doesn't matter anymore as long as you mention spurs it's valid. I remember the days when staff would try to keep things on topic & threads would be moved to there right place. Unfortunately those days are gone & you just have accept it or leave I guess
braineclipse
George Hunt
Your standard for world bearers seems similar to mine.
Pretty much the only way we've been able to get those players in the past has been by developing younger talented players or taking a chance on someone less proven.
It's probably still our most likely avenue to get there. Maybe someone like Eze could be that player. But most of those proven to be that player at a high level are out of our reach.
Sadly you might be correct , they are out of our reach. Developing young to become stars is rare. As I said for every Kane there’s 10 mediocre players.
Squad is very short of top tier talent. It’s got depth but that depth is all ok players.
So do the club need to pay wages that attract better players . Our Chairman said he wants to win leagues. It’s unrealistic. Weird statement from him.
SirPercyHotspur
Andy Reid
Community owned clubs , zero hope of that in the PL.
Not sure what Change can hope to achieve, they had violent fan demos at the Hammers did it get rid of the owners, answer no apart from the one who died RIP.
St's and Members already have their elected reps who attend FAB meetings who needs Change. if we want a question raised we ask our rep to do it.
There was supposed to be a FAB meeting on 24th June so the minutes should be out within a couple of weeks, might be news on stopping screenshots of QR codes being transferred as this person is attending.
CTO Attendance: The Chief Technology Officer (CTO) is scheduled to attend the next meeting on 24 June 2025 to discuss technological advancements and their impact on club operations.
Minutes link can be found on this page if anybody interested.
Fan Advisory Board meets | Tottenham Hotspur
The Club’s Fan Advisory Board (FAB) held a meeting on Tuesday 18 March.
www.tottenhamhotspur.com
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braineclipse
George Hunt
To me the wage structure is set up well to maximise the chance that we get a next superstar or two through west I see as the most likely route. Leaves room in the transfer budget for quite a lot of highly talented signings. As well as less proven, but very good players such as VdV.
If we're also willing to pay more for the right world beater ready mate player remains an open question. For me that's a better option now than it has been in a lot of years.
I don't think one Harry Kane 10 mediocre players is accurate. If you list our top 10 rated young players now I can't know if one will become a world beater, but I think some of the others will become much better than mediocre. That has to be the plan/hope at least.
Spur of the moment
Jimmy Neighbour
Empty words to get Levy off the hook short term. We all know his only real target is regular qualification for the CL on the cheap.
He got really lucky getting to the CL final with Poch, but none of that squad cost a bomb. In addition to the home-growns (Kane, Winks, Walker-Peters) he pulled off a clutch of absolute steals (Rose £1m, Trippier £3.5m, Walker £4m, Dier £4m, Dele £5m, Davies+Vorm combined c£13m); plus several excellent bargains (Eriksen £9m, LLoris £10m, Aldereiweld £11m, Verts £11m, Wanyama £11m). Even most of his his medium-priced buys proved really shrewd investments (Son £22m, Aurier £23m, Lamela £25m, Moura £25m).
Ironically his most expensive buys were his poorest value for money (Sissoko £30m, Sanchez £42m).
Not sure what you are saying?
Does levy scout and recommend players?
The ones we've spent larger fees on haven't worked out, so he should stick with the cheaper ones?
If we'd continued to bring in talent and sold someone like Eriksen, Alli or Dier at just past their peak we wouldn't have had the dip we've had. I'd blame Poch as much as Levy or anyone else
With whom? We sold bale. Who did we get in return? Walker?
Different era, if you look at the spend of last 5 years, it's very different to Poch era (obvious reasons, hint, $B stadium) or pre Stadium.
But just for arguments sake, how does getting CL on cheap benefit Levy? Spurs owners don't take dividends out, at best he gets a bonus (irrelevant number in scope of Spurs revenue/costs), and the additional CL revenue goes back into squad (23+ years of financials show this), how does that benefit Levy?
Community owned clubs , zero hope of that in the PL.
Not sure what Change can hope to achieve, they had violent fan demos at the Hammers did it get rid of the owners, answer no apart from the one who died RIP.
St's and Members already have their elected reps who attend FAB meetings who needs Change. if we want a question raised we ask our rep to do it.
There was supposed to be a FAB meeting on 24th June so the minutes should be out within a couple of weeks, might be news on stopping screenshots of QR codes being transferred as this person is attending.
CTO Attendance: The Chief Technology Officer (CTO) is scheduled to attend the next meeting on 24 June 2025 to discuss technological advancements and their impact on club operations.
Minutes link can be found on this page if anybody interested.
Fan Advisory Board meets | Tottenham Hotspur
The Club’s Fan Advisory Board (FAB) held a meeting on Tuesday 18 March.
Because UK fans will not put their fudging money where their mouth is, Spurs was publicly traded for years, did any of the supporters groups make an attempt to purchase any shares? even just to have voting rights? there are still ~13% of Spurs shares available, why are none of the groups buying?
Don't meant to be argumentative but the wages feel like chicken and egg
- Reason our wages are so low currently is a lot of our senior players have moved on in last 3 years (Kane, Dier, Lloris, etc.) and a lot of the incoming (Udogie, Bergvall, Gray, Wilson, etc.) are rightfully on low wages.
- Our top ability to buy is seems to still be 65M-80M range, which seems to be the Solanke/Mbeumo/Eze type of player or a top level player with less than a year on contract
So to have a real conversation
- Would you want to pay those Mbeumo/Eze type players >200K/week? personally I think that is a mistake, it's a United type overpay for mid level players
- What top level player (that we could buy for ~80M) that would come to us, that we have been unwilling to match wages for?
I feel like it's a narrative stick more than fact at the moment (our current buying practice is very different than it was even 5 years ago)
When you look at the squad
- Son was elite, obviously on down side of career
- Romero, Porro, Maddison, Solanke, Bentancur (he was bordering elite under Conte pre injury) are very good players
- VDV & Udogie could a step up
- Johnson is the odd one out, I don't think he's a winger, with the right development he could move to a position where his elite level positioning could help him step up
- Bergvall is the obvious next player to step up (his progression in 2nd half of season was impressive)
- Gray, Vuskovich, Moore are top rated talents in their age group.
CM, RW, CF are the places we could do with that elite talent coming in.
SirPercyHotspur
Andy Reid
It may have been possible to take control of the club when we were publicly listed on the London Stock Exchange but when Scholar left and we were in deep financial trouble it was only Sugar who stepped in with the cash and like you say no supporter groups got together to take a large proportion of shares at the club. Not sure when we moved from LSE to AIM but once Levy delisted us to become a private company and not public the only way to get control of the club is to buy out ENIC's 87% so it's now out of reach of supporter groups .
As far as I am aware those 13% don't get any voting rights that's the difference between trading as a public company to a private one, Levy and Lewis don't have to answer to those 13% they don't even have an annual general meeting in the same way that public companies do.
Trouble with the groups like Change is how do you protest , we have now won silverware , we have a new CEO who I believe will be very involved as he has been appointed to the board of directors something that was never given to Munn.
So what do Change do, lead more chants at the stadium and create a negative atmosphere with a new manager taking over.
There is so much rubbish talked about Levy, yes he controls the budget but he doesn't go out scouting players like Ndombele, Lo Celso etc expensive flops , somebody else is doing that.
Tottenham Hotspur delists shares from stock exchange
Football club Tottenham Hotspur delists its shares from the stock market and goes private as it looks to build a new stadium.
www.bbc.co.uk
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SirPercyHotspur
Andy Reid
For aficionado's of the wage/revenue ratio, something that never worried anybody until Deloitte started featuring it in about 21 or 22 in their money league.
If you go back to the last season at WHL the club had 439 full time employees and the wage bill was £126.9 million , revenue £306.3 million.
In the last accounts full time employees numbered 820 and the wage bill was £221.9 million, revenue £528.2 million, what nobody knows and this applies to all football clubs what proportion of the wage bill goes to the 1st team squad.
Other interesting snippets in the 2018 accounts, 62,000 on the ST waiting list and 126,000 members.
If you go back to the last season at WHL the club had 439 full time employees and the wage bill was £126.9 million , revenue £306.3 million.
In the last accounts full time employees numbered 820 and the wage bill was £221.9 million, revenue £528.2 million, what nobody knows and this applies to all football clubs what proportion of the wage bill goes to the 1st team squad.
Other interesting snippets in the 2018 accounts, 62,000 on the ST waiting list and 126,000 members.
Bedfordspurs
Graham Roberts
Very simple facts
Bedfordspurs
Graham Roberts
And Villa being in cahoots but now being left out
Legohamster
Steffen Freund
I don't think Levy is the issue, Lewis (family) are the ones with money , they are not putting money into the club and don't really seem interested in selling.
We need investment
3rd highest net spender in the last 5 years, would you mind explaining to me how that is doing it on the cheap?