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[Robspur12]

I like the look of Everton myself

Yep and with Martinez as their manager it is certainly not a given that we will finish above them.

 

[milo]

they don't need to challenge it, just work around it, I have no idea how much Lampard is currently on at City, but it doesn't matter as it's not on city's books anyway

Emirates Marketing Project did not sign Falcao today because of FFP, if it was that easy to get around wouldn't they have chosen to do it on that deal rather than taking Lampard on loan for six months?

 

[Robspur12]

my wish is for us to become financially doped as well

Btw I believe that without regular champs league football or major trophy success, building a new stadium is the only way that will happen.

 

[Superhudd]

they don't need to challenge it, just work around it, I have no idea how much Lampard is currently on at City, but it doesn't matter as it's not on city's books anyway

And just like what happened with the sponsorships.. those doing FFP will just add on the amounts they feel these clubs are fiddling the books with, i.e they will take what contract they believe he is on and add to the spending figure. Pretty simple really, infact I can see FFP going over the top with the figures as the cheating clubs may think being honest is better next time.

 

[djp82]

I thought our weakness was at the back? We averaged two goals per game (I think) under Sherwood and scored 10 in our first four games this season. It wasn't really a goal scorer that was the problem against Liverpool.

Have you seen Everton's squad and the games they've played so far? If we finish below that Poch deserves to be sacked.

Yes they have just played to clubs who are head and shoulders above us! I compare us to them as it's who we will be scrapping with for 6th.. We have strengthened at the back but Fazio is unproven .Davie looks like back up ,Dier is a centre back Verts is not as good a centre back as spurs fans like to believe. We beat QPR because as much as we were good they were shockingly bad. So goals will be a concern Lamela still looks lightweight Eriksen May chip in a few
But that's what a striker is for and ours are not prolific.Worrying

 

[Baleforce]

Emirates Marketing Project did not sign Falcao today because of FFP, if it was that easy to get around wouldn't they have chosen to do it on that deal rather than taking Lampard on loan for six months?

I expect there was more to it than FFP, they have Aguero, they have a squad on the limit of non homegrown players, they know united are desperate and have no need to enter a bidding war, plus if he goes there he's not a factor in the title race, had Chelsea been in for him they may have got involved

I think they are 2 different points, I was merely highlighting a loophole

 

[DubaiSpur]

If nothing happens in this last half an hour, I wouldn't blame Poch one bit if he walked out tomorrow after giving Levy the finger. So much for backing. Still, the bevy of Levy defenders here will insist that he's absolutely behind Poch, right up until he gives him an ultimatum to play Ade or get sacked. After that, the narrative will change to 'oh, he's inflexible, he's a terrible manager because he couldn't make do with players he didn't want as first choices that we disgustedly flung his way while rushing to keep the net spend at a negative level'. And like lemmings, we'll all fall in line behind Levy when he spews some guff about ambition, and we'll all look forward to the new manager post-Poch getting some 'real backing this time'.

Utter rubbish. If this window finishes with no more incomings, then it is abundantly clear that Levy has no more faith or patience in Poch than he does in AVB. Still, at least we made a profit again. Mustn't do a Leeds, and all that. And after all, Poch agreed to not getting any of Musacchio, Schneiderlin,Rodriguez, Moreno, and even Welbeck when he took the job, don't you know? He clearly told Levy 'I'm happy with having to play Younes Kaboul in games against Liverpool, I'm happy with playing the nineteen year old Bentaleb as our first-choice regista, I'm thrilled with Townsend and Lennon as backups to Chadli and Lamela, and I'm only sad that I had to ask you for any signings at all.'

Sigh. What backing. What ambition. What commitment to our new man. Backslapping all around.

Come on Levy, there's still half an hour. Do something that'll save your defenders from having to trot out all that utter tripe.

 

[Baleforce]

And just like what happened with the sponsorships.. those doing FFP will just add on the amounts they feel these clubs are fiddling the books with, i.e they will take what contract they believe he is on and add to the spending figure. Pretty simple really, infact I can see FFP going over the top with the figures as the cheating clubs may think being honest is better next time.

but city really are not paying him a penny, New York are, it just so happens they have the same owner...

not sure such a move would stand up to legal scrutiny

 

[Jordinho]

Yes they have just played to clubs who are head and shoulders above us! I compare us to them as it's who we will be scrapping with for 6th.. We have strengthened at the back but Fazio is unproven .Davie looks like back up ,Dier is a centre back Verts is not as good a centre back as spurs fans like to believe. We beat QPR because as much as we were good they were shockingly bad. So goals will be a concern Lamela still looks lightweight Eriksen May chip in a few
But that's what a striker is for and ours are not prolific.Worrying

Everton's squad has an average age of 28, which is a bit skewed by their recent academy graduates like Barkley, Stones, Duffy. Most of their key players are in there 30s and their squad is thin on quality.

 

[Rossi22]

 

[Baleforce]

further....

sorry, I know I'm banging on

FFP isn't a magic equaliser that will bridge the gap between rich and poor, clubs that make more can spend more, all it's doing is making the rich (and wannabe rich) clubs race to build an empire so they can claim to have higher income further down the line

when the call comes they will pull that drawbridge up behind them

it's always been a case of buying your way in, but now time is short

 

[camspur]

If nothing happens in this last half an hour, I wouldn't blame Poch one bit if he walked out tomorrow after giving Levy the finger. So much for backing. Still, the bevy of Levy defenders here will insist that he's absolutely behind Poch, right up until he gives him an ultimatum to play Ade or get sacked. After that, the narrative will change to 'oh, he's inflexible, he's a terrible manager because he couldn't make do with players he didn't want as first choices that we disgustedly flung his way while rushing to keep the net spend at a negative level'. And like lemmings, we'll all fall in line behind Levy when he spews some guff about ambition, and we'll all look forward to the new manager post-Poch getting some 'real backing this time'.

Utter rubbish. If this window finishes with no more incomings, then it is abundantly clear that Levy has no more faith or patience in Poch than he does in AVB. Still, at least we made a profit again. Mustn't do a Leeds, and all that. And after all, Poch agreed to not getting any of Musacchio, Schneiderlin,Rodriguez, Moreno, and even Welbeck when he took the job, don't you know? He clearly told Levy 'I'm happy with having to play Younes Kaboul in games against Liverpool, I'm happy with playing the nineteen year old Bentaleb as our first-choice regista, I'm thrilled with Townsend and Lennon as backups to Chadli and Lamela, and I'm only sad that I had to ask you for any signings at all.'

Sigh. What backing. What ambition. What commitment to our new man. Backslapping all around.

Come on Levy, there's still half an hour. Do something that'll save your defenders from having to trot out all that utter tripe.

That really is utter tripe. There is absolutely no way you can know whether Levy has backed Poch or not, no way of knowing whether Poch wanted any of the players you list, in fact thinking about it this is worse than tripe its total bull****.

 

[Benny_Lad]

Oh spurs fans... You really are borderline stupid... We haven't replaced hitlyby, or sigg, or blah blah blah are you joking. Our squad is perfectly balanced. Perfectly balanced which it hasn't been for a long long long long time. It's WAY more balanced than man u's and arsenals... Man U have a weak defence and a weak central midfield. Arsenal have weak cover in cb and cm and an awful strike force.

What we lack are real quality players all the other 5 have. World beating players. Lamela COULD be it. Eriksen COULD be it. Ade COULD turn it on. Soldado COULD find form... But it's risky.

But we have two top half prem quality teams. That's good depth

First 11

----------------Lloris
Walker--Fazio--Vertonghen--Rose
-------Stambouli--Dembele
Lamela-----Eriksen-------Chadli
-------------Adebayor

Second 11

--------------------Vorm
Naughton-Kaboul--Dier--Davies
------------Capoue--Bentaleb
Townsend----Paulinho-----Lennon
-----------------Soldado

Plus Harry Kane and chiriches.

Completely agree we have a great squad but our best 11 isnt good enough to compete at the top is it?

PS - you have Bentaleb and Capoue in your 2nd 11.......? Poch see's it different no? and he's had Kane in front of Soldado vs West Ham and in Europa.

 

[Jordinho]

If nothing happens in this last half an hour, I wouldn't blame Poch one bit if he walked out tomorrow after giving Levy the finger. So much for backing. Still, the bevy of Levy defenders here will insist that he's absolutely behind Poch, right up until he gives him an ultimatum to play Ade or get sacked. After that, the narrative will change to 'oh, he's inflexible, he's a terrible manager because he couldn't make do with players he didn't want as first choices that we disgustedly flung his way while rushing to keep the net spend at a negative level'. And like lemmings, we'll all fall in line behind Levy when he spews some guff about ambition, and we'll all look forward to the new manager post-Poch getting some 'real backing this time'.

Utter rubbish. If this window finishes with no more incomings, then it is abundantly clear that Levy has no more faith or patience in Poch than he does in AVB. Still, at least we made a profit again. Mustn't do a Leeds, and all that. And after all, Poch agreed to not getting any of Musacchio, Schneiderlin,Rodriguez, Moreno, and even Welbeck when he took the job, don't you know? He clearly told Levy 'I'm happy with having to play Younes Kaboul in games against Liverpool, I'm happy with playing the nineteen year old Bentaleb as our first-choice regista, I'm thrilled with Townsend and Lennon as backups to Chadli and Lamela, and I'm only sad that I had to ask you for any signings at all.'

Sigh. What backing. What ambition. What commitment to our new man. Backslapping all around.

Come on Levy, there's still half an hour. Do something that'll save your defenders from having to trot out all that utter tripe.

Deary me, what a load of crap.

Unless you have some insight into what Levy, Poch and Baldini have talked about and agreed upon, I'd say this is mostly about your unrealistic expectations.

 

[Superhudd]

lol its so true. Even if it was one #1 on the managers list I think people would be happy with that during the summer window. I'd like to know what Baldini has been up to personally apart from having dinner with mates. haha

 

[Superhudd]

Deary me, what a load of crap.

Unless you have some insight into what Levy, Poch and Baldini have talked about and agreed upon, I'd say this is mostly about your unrealistic expectations.

I think your wrong.. Unfortunately us as fans pretty much know how it goes down nowadays. Too much smoke for it all to be bullhit. I don't think its that far from the truth... I just wish I could trust Levy on player decisions because I 100% cannot.

 

[milo]

I think your wrong.. Unfortunately us as fans pretty much know how it goes down nowadays. Too much smoke for it all to be bullhit. I don't think its that far from the truth... I just wish I could trust Levy on player decisions because I 100% cannot.

We live within our means, I don't know why this has come as such a big surprise to anyone. All we have seen this weekend is that some players that we wanted were difficult to get, one because of third party ownership issues and the other because his club wanted more money than we valued the player at. There is a big jump to get from there to assuming that Poch wanted us to get those players at any price. I think that it is just as likely that Poch recognises that we have finite resources for transfers and wages and agreed to us moving on to alternative targets. I think that what is key is that the two players that we failed to sign, we brought in alternatives, so the gaps that Poch identified have been filled.

 

[Superhudd]

but city really are not paying him a penny, New York are, it just so happens they have the same owner...

not sure such a move would stand up to legal scrutiny

Do you 100% know they are not paying him a penny.

I will suggest that UEFA will ask the New York club for details.. should they refrain then FFP will make them up... and probably over what if they were honest. Its exactly what they did with sponsorships.. I would imagine if they challenge then UEFA simply say you cannot take part in the Champions League. There is nothing in law which states that City have a GHod damn right to be in that competition. All competition's have rules in which everyone agrees upon.. there is no comeback IMO from a legal standpoint.

 

[JerusalemMan]

If nothing happens in this last half an hour, I wouldn't blame Poch one bit if he walked out tomorrow after giving Levy the finger. So much for backing. Still, the bevy of Levy defenders here will insist that he's absolutely behind Poch, right up until he gives him an ultimatum to play Ade or get sacked. After that, the narrative will change to 'oh, he's inflexible, he's a terrible manager because he couldn't make do with players he didn't want as first choices that we disgustedly flung his way while rushing to keep the net spend at a negative level'. And like lemmings, we'll all fall in line behind Levy when he spews some guff about ambition, and we'll all look forward to the new manager post-Poch getting some 'real backing this time'.

Utter rubbish. If this window finishes with no more incomings, then it is abundantly clear that Levy has no more faith or patience in Poch than he does in AVB. Still, at least we made a profit again. Mustn't do a Leeds, and all that. And after all, Poch agreed to not getting any of Musacchio, Schneiderlin,Rodriguez, Moreno, and even Welbeck when he took the job, don't you know? He clearly told Levy 'I'm happy with having to play Younes Kaboul in games against Liverpool, I'm happy with playing the nineteen year old Bentaleb as our first-choice regista, I'm thrilled with Townsend and Lennon as backups to Chadli and Lamela, and I'm only sad that I had to ask you for any signings at all.'

Sigh. What backing. What ambition. What commitment to our new man. Backslapping all around.

Come on Levy, there's still half an hour. Do something that'll save your defenders from having to trot out all that utter tripe.

What guff you spout. A sad case of oral flatulence.
I've read more complimentary and realistic things from Arsenal fans

 

[Rorschach]

We live within our means, I don't know why this has come as such a big surprise to anyone. All we have seen this weekend is that some players that we wanted were difficult to get, one because of third party ownership issues and the other because his club wanted more money than we valued the player at. There is a big jump to get from there to assuming that Poch wanted us to get those players at any price. I think that it is just as likely that Poch recognises that we have finite resources for transfers and wages and agreed to us moving on to alternative targets. I think that what is key is that the two players that we failed to sign, we brought in alternatives, so the gaps that Poch identified have been filled.

We have money and plenty of it but have chosen not to funnel it into player transfers. It's as simple as that as far as I can see and although I commend Levy's stewardship of the club for the most part he must realise that once in a while he needs to roll the dice, take a risk and give the manager, and indeed the fans, something. I think if one of our main transfers had come off (coupled with a better result yesterday) would have improved the mood around here. Sandro leaving has just added to the gloom. Anyway I hope we look back at the signings of Strombouli and Fazio as good players rather than good deals.