Daniel Levy - Chairman

[Bullet]

They are there if you look closely. Take a look at the most successful club.

Ferran Soriano: CEO and Managing Director of Operations
Roel de Vries: Group Chief Operating Officer
Ingo Bank: Chief Financial Officer
Simon Cliff: General Counsel
Simon Heggie: Chief Communications Officer
Carolyn Macnab: Chief People Officer
Brian Marwood: Managing Director of Global Football
Txiki Begiristain: Director of Football (Hugo Viana taking over)
Nuria Tarre: Chief Marketing Officer
Greg Swimer: Chief Technology Officer
Jorgina Busquets: Managing Director of Football Education, Recreation & Partner Clubs
Peter Laundy: Senior Vice President of Partnerships
Danny Wilson: Managing Director, Emirates Marketing Project Operations
Pep Guardiola: Manager

Ferran Soriano's book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Goal-Doesnt-Chance-Management-Football/dp/0230355153
Contains fascinating facts that aren't found in either the sports or business press that reveal the behind the scenes world of international football. Soriano teaches us the importance of strategy as he examines how managers can waste millions of euros making decisions that lack any logic at all in both football and business.

Won't be buying it, looking at the price

Huh?! The hardback is £50 and the paperback is £256....wtf?!


BTW, Google AI says Jorgina Busquets is not related to Sergio.
I looked at her LinkedIn and it is full of building relationships with schools and colleges. They are so wholesome aren't they, the City Group?

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[Bedfordspurs]

Fair enough, without checking I take it they are all at City?

The club that’s broken every rule in the competition they are part of because of this leadership

 

[Grays_1890]

The club that’s broken every rule in the competition they are part of because of this leadership

And also you could say money now management of that money helped.

Buying an entire new back 4, 12 months after the first 4 failed doesn't smack of knowledge but resources

 

[braineclipse]

Looking back at this if those wages are true it's actually madness. Who the hell sanctioned that kind of wage for a player like Werner? That's not smart business. I don't understand a model where we don't spend big on players that deserve it but then spend a decently on players on unworthy if it, ie the likes of Werner, Sissoko etc.

Because an alternative squad option would probably cost similar amounts or more in total (transfer fee and wages) and we'd risk being in the same old place of not being able to shift an unwanted player.

And also imo because Werner was a player Ange wanted. Levy backing the manager and all that.

Pie-in-the-sky stuff, unfortunately. Our record in sacking managers, Ange's record of staying only for short spells at clubs, and PL averages all suggest that he won't be here for anywhere near that time. In fact, going by statistics, there is a good chance that he is already more than halfway through his tenure.

Was it pie in the sky stuff when Pochettino was first here?

You may very well end up being right. For me the more important questions are (1) will Ange get real use out of Gray, Bergvall, Odobert and Moore (or others like Yang, Lankshear etc) in the next 18 months in the PL? And (2) will those signings help us push on as a club over time regardless of if that's with or without Ange?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Because an alternative squad option would probably cost similar amounts or more in total (transfer fee and wages) and we'd risk being in the same old place of not being able to shift an unwanted player.

And also imo because Werner was a player Ange wanted. Levy backing the manager and all that.

Was it pie in the sky stuff when Pochettino was first here?

You may very well end up being right. For me the more important questions are (1) will Ange get real use out of Gray, Bergvall, Odobert and Moore (or others like Yang, Lankshear etc) in the next 18 months in the PL? And (2) will those signings help us push on as a club over time regardless of if that's with or without Ange?

I’ve always said that thsi squad is being built for the next man
The investment and also direction with even younger players means to me we’re gonna see a maturity in 24 months time
What Ange does in the meantime to who progress and direction will be key

 

[braineclipse]

I’ve always said that thsi squad is being built for the next man
The investment and also direction with even younger players means to me we’re gonna see a maturity in 24 months time
What Ange does in the meantime to who progress and direction will be key

Think we're well positioned for the next 24 months. Only Son of the regular starters that is likely to have to be replaced in that time. Any other players that need replacing would be because we've sold someone for a huge amount of money. A lot of fairly young players that will hopefully be able to get more consistent over time. And some wonderful young talents, hopefully at least one or two properly step up.

If that ends up with a squad for Ange or the next guy will depend on what Ange can do with the squad as it matures. Could see it go a lot of ways, but for me he deserves time unless things go really sideways.

 

[Muttley]

I’ve always said that thsi squad is being built for the next man
The investment and also direction with even younger players means to me we’re gonna see a maturity in 24 months time
What Ange does in the meantime to who progress and direction will be key

Think we're well positioned for the next 24 months. Only Son of the regular starters that is likely to have to be replaced in that time. Any other players that need replacing would be because we've sold someone for a huge amount of money. A lot of fairly young players that will hopefully be able to get more consistent over time. And some wonderful young talents, hopefully at least one or two properly step up.

If that ends up with a squad for Ange or the next guy will depend on what Ange can do with the squad as it matures. Could see it go a lot of ways, but for me he deserves time unless things go really sideways.

This is all because, the last squad was built for the next man. Ange has been incredibly fortunate to have the majority of this really good team come from the previous tenure. Paratici in my opinion did an amazing job.

I'm hoping this now becomes the norm for Spurs where the squad can transition seamlessly between 1st team coaches. No more new projects and major squad overhauls please.

 

[braineclipse]

This is all because, the last squad was built for the next man. Ange has been incredibly fortunate to have the majority of this really good team come from the previous tenure. Paratici in my opinion did an amazing job.

I'm hoping this now becomes the norm for Spurs where the squad can transition seamlessly between 1st team coaches. No more new projects and major squad overhauls please.

I don't think Ange has been incredibly fortune. He took over a bit of a mess, then lost Kane. But he's been fortunate that Paratici had already made a number of good deals that meant it was less of a mess than it otherwise would have been.

I agree on this kind of thinking becoming the norm. Though I would like to see us skew a bit more towards short term solutions in the next couple of windows.

Edit: Not short term as in older players at their peak. But more Solanke, Maddison, VdV type signings being the main focus.

 

[Muttley]

I don't think Ange has been incredibly fortune. He took over a bit of a mess, then lost Kane. But he's been fortunate that Paratici had already made a number of good deals that meant it was less of a mess than it otherwise would have been.

I agree on this kind of thinking becoming the norm. Though I would like to see us skew a bit more towards short term solutions in the next couple of windows.

Edit: Not short term as in older players at their peak. But more Solanke, Maddison, VdV type signings being the main focus.

Your words "bit of a mess" are quite telling actually. That's actually all it was.

When Ange picked up pre-season, gave a few the cuddle they needed and let them play football he changed it back in weeks, if not days. In some ways, what Mason did when he unscrambled all the players heads after Jose got sacked.

As for Kane, who cares? He wouldn't have suited Ange's system who has no passengers physically. We scored more goals without him, and we defended from the top properly for the first time in 2-3 years. We also bought in Venom, VDV and Madds with the Kane money and Ange's project cannot work without these new players. Ange was always very cool about it and was lucky that he didn't need to get involved. The club sorted it all out for him as he arrived.

I do agree about the next set of signings though. The game changers with Poch were Dier, Dele, Sonny, Toby and Big Vic over the 3 years to when we got 86 points. The key signings in years 2 and 3 were the 23-26 year olds, not the U21s. I hope we don't go mad. Just one or two of this profile in next summer's window is what is required. Perhaps one this January.

We'll be cooking on gas soon.

 

[Grays_1890]

I don't think Ange has been incredibly fortune. He took over a bit of a mess, then lost Kane. But he's been fortunate that Paratici had already made a number of good deals that meant it was less of a mess than it otherwise would have been.

I agree on this kind of thinking becoming the norm. Though I would like to see us skew a bit more towards short term solutions in the next couple of windows.

Edit: Not short term as in older players at their peak. But more Solanke, Maddison, VdV type signings being the main focus.

It was a massive mess, a bunch of players who were past the CBD and also unable to play the system built to their strengths let alone what the new manager wanted.

The state of the muck we had to move on.............embarrassing hoarding

 

[Muttley]

It was a massive mess, a bunch of players who were past the CBD and also unable to play the system built to their strengths let alone what the new manager wanted.

The state of the muck we had to move on.............embarrassing hoarding

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When Ange started last season he had the following in his first playing squad.

Porro, Spence, Romero, Udogie, Davies, Biss, Bents, Sarr, Kulu, Johnson, Sonny, Richi
In the summer he joined, Spurs added Venom, VDV, Madds and Dragu in the Jan window
This summer we added Solanke and the 4 kids (Gray, Yang, Bergval, Odobert)

So Ange started last season's PL opener with 15 of this squad that just beat City, not to mention a crazily good academy.

Most of that list of yours was work that the club did prior to Ange walking through the door. It was work that the club did, not Ange. That was my original point. Ange was lucky as hell he didn't walk in prior to this point. It was a massive mess but the cleanup operation was mostly done before he pulled the tracksuit on. He had it way easier than Jose, Nuno and Conte who really did struggle for the type of talent and depth that Ange inherited.

In some ways, when Reggie leaves in Jan that will be the last bit of culling of the deadwood. Ange then has to be nothing but proprietorial about this being HIS squad. Much, much quicker than Ten Hag or Arteta had it in my opinion. Probably quicker than Pep and Klopp when you think about it.

Our future is bright.

 

[braineclipse]

Your words "bit of a mess" are quite telling actually. That's actually all it was.

When Ange picked up pre-season, gave a few the cuddle they needed and let them play football he changed it back in weeks, if not days. In some ways, what Mason did when he unscrambled all the players heads after Jose got sacked.

As for Kane, who cares? He wouldn't have suited Ange's system who has no passengers physically. We scored more goals without him, and we defended from the top properly for the first time in 2-3 years. We also bought in Venom, VDV and Madds with the Kane money and Ange's project cannot work without these new players. Ange was always very cool about it and was lucky that he didn't need to get involved. The club sorted it all out for him as he arrived.

I do agree about the next set of signings though. The game changers with Poch were Dier, Dele, Sonny, Toby and Big Vic over the 3 years to when we got 86 points. The key signings in years 2 and 3 were the 23-26 year olds, not the U21s. I hope we don't go mad. Just one or two of this profile in next summer's window is what is required. Perhaps one this January.

We'll be cooking on gas soon.

Since he took over he's integrated Vicario, Udogie, VdV, Maddison, Johnson and Solanke as new players. He's also essentially integrated Sarr who was barely given game time before as well as moved Kulusevski. Porro had half a season and was seen more of a wing back. And got Bissouma regularly into the team. Then also squad/backup players like Werner and Dragusin.

The only reason it looks like "a bit of a mess" in hindsight is because of how successful the club and he has been in identifying the right players for the system, signing them and integrating them.

 

[Muttley]

Since he took over he's integrated Vicario, Udogie, VdV, Maddison, Johnson and Solanke as new players. He's also essentially integrated Sarr who was barely given game time before as well as moved Kulusevski. Porro had half a season and was seen more of a wing back. And got Bissouma regularly into the team. Then also squad/backup players like Werner and Dragusin.

The only reason it looks like "a bit of a mess" in hindsight is because of how successful the club and he has been in identifying the right players for the system, signing them and integrating them.

That's fair.

In Men In Black terms, he used the electro bio-mechanical neural transmitting zero synapse repositioner, commonly referred to as a neuralyzer on all existing and new players. He then got to work

 

[Grays_1890]

When Ange started last season he had the following in his first playing squad.

Porro, Spence, Romero, Udogie, Davies, Biss, Bents, Sarr, Kulu, Johnson, Sonny, Richi
In the summer he joined, Spurs added Venom, VDV, Madds and Dragu in the Jan window
This summer we added Solanke and the 4 kids (Gray, Yang, Bergval, Odobert)

So Ange started last season's PL opener with 15 of this squad that just beat City, not to mention a crazily good academy.

Most of that list of yours was work that the club did prior to Ange walking through the door. It was work that the club did, not Ange. That was my original point. Ange was lucky as hell he didn't walk in prior to this point. It was a massive mess but the cleanup operation was mostly done before he pulled the tracksuit on. He had it way easier than Jose, Nuno and Conte who really did struggle for the type of talent and depth that Ange inherited.

In some ways, when Reggie leaves in Jan that will be the last bit of culling of the deadwood. Ange then has to be nothing but proprietorial about this being HIS squad. Much, much quicker than Ten Hag or Arteta had it in my opinion. Probably quicker than Pep and Klopp when you think about it.

Our future is bright.

He pulled the trigger on alot of what was on those list, if we went back pages there was lots of talk about his ability to get to the issues of the squad quickly, even with that ability alot of the crap remained and only went later on including in the last window.

The crazy good academy only became apparent in the 12 months after his arrival bar 2/3 players, none of whom were ready back then.

Ultimately the squad and the club were a real bad mess when he took over, it was dreadful truly dreadful

 

[Muttley]

He pulled the trigger on alot of what was on those list, if we went back pages there was lots of talk about his ability to get to the issues of the squad quickly, even with that ability alot of the crap remained and only went later on including in the last window.

The crazy good academy only became apparent in the 12 months after his arrival bar 2/3 players, none of whom were ready back then.

Ultimately the squad and the club were a real bad mess when he took over, it was dreadful truly dreadful

Fortunately, what it shows is that we finally have cohesion between the 1st team coach, the DoF and our new Chief Football Officer.

Ange has had 240m euros of NET spending, not to mention the other money from sales like Kane. Paratici got him a core of players that he started with (including last summers) and the Munn/Lange team seem to be able to continue the process with this summers. Ange's luxury is that he only has to focus on his core 1st team squad. After his assessment and decision on players, he is not the one managing their departures. He is not compromised as prior managers who didn't have this luxury. He's not like Poch who was basically told he had to work with what he had. He's not so compromised on what players he can bring in either because the net spending has been released nowadays. Saying that Ange isn't on Poch, Jose, Conte level salaries either.

So I'll give him credit for the judgment calls, but I'm not a fan that is going to align all the transformational credit to him because he sits in the managers role. He didn't single handedly sort a big mess out. Far from it. On the squad transformation, his role is more minor that fans think. Training ground and match days is where the first team manager is worth his weight in gold, along with the nurturing of his players over their tenures. He's doing a good job at both.

 

[Grays_1890]

Fortunately, what it shows is that we finally have cohesion between the 1st team coach, the DoF and our new Chief Football Officer.

Ange has had 240m euros of NET spending, not to mention the other money from sales like Kane. Paratici got him a core of players that he started with (including last summers) and the Munn/Lange team seem to be able to continue the process with this summers. Ange's luxury is that he only has to focus on his core 1st team squad. After his assessment and decision on players, he is not the one managing their departures. He is not compromised as prior managers who didn't have this luxury. He's not like Poch who was basically told he had to work with what he had. He's not so compromised on what players he can bring in either because the net spending has been released nowadays. Saying that Ange isn't on Poch, Jose, Conte level salaries either.

So I'll give him credit for the judgment calls, but I'm not a fan that is going to align all the transformational credit to him because he sits in the managers role. He didn't single handedly sort a big mess out. Far from it. On the squad transformation, his role is more minor that fans think. Training ground and match days is where the first team manager is worth his weight in gold, along with the nurturing of his players over their tenures. He's doing a good job at both.

I am not giving him sole credit, but his bloody-mindedness and ability to cut to issues quickly and know what he wants helps the process IMO, I am a big fan of what Lange and Munn have also done to help that (and Fab).

My overall point is that given from where the squad is to where it needs to be is still going to take time (IMO we need some star quality added and additional balance). We have spent alot, recouped a fair bit and I still thing a way to go.

Long may it continue this way though

 

[Muttley]

I am not giving him sole credit, but his bloody-mindedness and ability to cut to issues quickly and know what he wants helps the process IMO, I am a big fan of what Lange and Munn have also done to help that (and Fab).

My overall point is that given from where the squad is to where it needs to be is still going to take time (IMO we need some star quality added and additional balance). We have spent alot, recouped a fair bit and I still thing a way to go.

Long may it continue this way though

Yeah, we're definitely not used to the sort of single mindedness that have been shown to Dier this time last season, and now Reggie. I mean, you got to the Etihad and you have an experienced 27 year old international LB available and you pick 2 kids on your bench instead.

Makes it very simple for everyone involved.

 

[braineclipse]

Fortunately, what it shows is that we finally have cohesion between the 1st team coach, the DoF and our new Chief Football Officer.

Ange has had 240m euros of NET spending, not to mention the other money from sales like Kane. Paratici got him a core of players that he started with (including last summers) and the Munn/Lange team seem to be able to continue the process with this summers. Ange's luxury is that he only has to focus on his core 1st team squad. After his assessment and decision on players, he is not the one managing their departures. He is not compromised as prior managers who didn't have this luxury. He's not like Poch who was basically told he had to work with what he had. He's not so compromised on what players he can bring in either because the net spending has been released nowadays. Saying that Ange isn't on Poch, Jose, Conte level salaries either.

So I'll give him credit for the judgment calls, but I'm not a fan that is going to align all the transformational credit to him because he sits in the managers role. He didn't single handedly sort a big mess out. Far from it. On the squad transformation, his role is more minor that fans think. Training ground and match days is where the first team manager is worth his weight in gold, along with the nurturing of his players over their tenures. He's doing a good job at both.

I fully agree that others deserve credit too. I'm always up for a bit of Paratici praising.

But I also think the manger is important on the transfer side too. Having a real clarity on what your style of play is and on what kind of priorities they want I think is super useful. That and willingness to work with different types of players within certain criteria.

 

[Raziel]

Yeah, we're definitely not used to the sort of single mindedness that have been shown to Dier this time last season, and now Reggie. I mean, you got to the Etihad and you have an experienced 27 year old international LB available and you pick 2 kids on your bench instead.

Makes it very simple for everyone involved.

Sometimes shifts are subtle and you don't notice it for years

How decisions are made on the football side has shifted considerably since Paratici came in
- Lots of structure stuff, roles, etc
- But the view to not just Dier, but basically starting with Aurier (released from contract), Lloris, Dier, Sanchez, Tanganga, Roden, Gil, Ndombele, GLC, Solomon, Skipp, Winks, Sess, Begwijn, Perisic, CCV. Lots of those players we just took a hit on, moved on, and we will likely do the same with Reguilon in January
- Incoming re-focus on youth, Johnson, VDV, Udogie, Sarr, Bergvall, Gray, Dragusin, Vuskovich, Moore. Yang

Just an outsiders observation but it's seems a lot more structured and settled at Spurs now

 

[DubSpur]

They are there if you look closely. Take a look at the most successful club.

Ferran Soriano: CEO and Managing Director of Operations
Roel de Vries: Group Chief Operating Officer
Ingo Bank: Chief Financial Officer
Simon Cliff: General Counsel
Simon Heggie: Chief Communications Officer
Carolyn Macnab: Chief People Officer
Brian Marwood: Managing Director of Global Football
Txiki Begiristain: Director of Football (Hugo Viana taking over)
Nuria Tarre: Chief Marketing Officer
Greg Swimer: Chief Technology Officer
Jorgina Busquets: Managing Director of Football Education, Recreation & Partner Clubs
Peter Laundy: Senior Vice President of Partnerships
Danny Wilson: Managing Director, Emirates Marketing Project Operations
Pep Guardiola: Manager

Ferran Soriano's book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Goal-Doesnt-Chance-Management-Football/dp/0230355153
Contains fascinating facts that aren't found in either the sports or business press that reveal the behind the scenes world of international football. Soriano teaches us the importance of strategy as he examines how managers can waste millions of euros making decisions that lack any logic at all in both football and business.

Won't be buying it, looking at the price

How do you figure they are all football people or have "football DNA"? Most of them are business people. Txiki Begiristain (outside Pep obviously) is the only one that has a good background in football.