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Daniel Levy - Chairman

With Mourinho, I thought he was past it, but fudge it let's have a go at prioritising winning anything over style. With hindsight it was a bad appointment. With Conte, we were genuinely getting one of the best coaches in the world at his peak. Based on the end of his first season, and plenty of cash to spend in the summer, I genuinely thought we had a chance of winning the league the next season. With hindsight I wish we'd never flirted with this type of manager, but I can understand why we did. Anyway, today is a new dawn, COYS!
 
LemonadeMoney said:
With Mourinho, I thought he was past it, but fudge it let's have a go at prioritising winning anything over style. With hindsight it was a bad appointment. With Conte, we were genuinely getting one of the best coaches in the world at his peak. Based on the end of his first season, and plenty of cash to spend in the summer, I genuinely thought we had a chance of winning the league the next season. With hindsight I wish we'd never flirted with this type of manager, but I can understand why we did. Anyway, today is a new dawn, COYS!
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I think he proved here that he wasn’t one of the best coaches in the world. A Klopp and Pep would have come in and won us the league.
 
Baleforce said:
Both bigger chequebook managers than Jose or Conte imo.
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But also both have a history of trusting younger talented players and enhancing their development.

Like any manager they will do better with superior materials, but they've shown they can also spot those materials and work with them before they are known to be the finished product.

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billyiddo said:
Neither Klopp or Pep were successful here until they had serious investment & a large turnaround of players to get their teams as they needed - not knocking them but they would have required the same here.
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Or the time needed to make it their own?
 
Baleforce said:
yeah, the tactics were obvious, and worked for both for a time, it was under Jose that Kane and Son hit the record, and the CL sealing charge under Conte
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Conte was running on what was in place that season- you can't make sweeping tactical changes mid season. The following season you saw more of what he was aiming for
 
DTA said:
Jose and Conte most of the fans agreed with. We were getting mocked from then that we weren’t winning anything, so Levy listened to our fans and got in “winners”. Jose was humstrung by Covid that restricted what we could offer him in terms of transfer budget - because you know Covid and we had no idea when it would end. But Conte was backed, only the most idiotic “levy out” douches would disagree
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I don’t get involved in Levy out/Levy in etc. I simply responded to someone who said he’d done a great job. If I recruited 3 employees in my job in leadership positions and all 3 failed back to back, the buck would stop with me.

Nobody can say Levy has succeeded on the football front. That’s pretty much indisputable.
 
Benny_Lad said:
I don’t get involved in Levy out/Levy in etc. I simply responded to someone who said he’d done a great job. If I recruited 3 employees in my job in leadership positions and all 3 failed back to back, the buck would stop with me.

Nobody can say Levy has succeeded on the football front. That’s pretty much indisputable.
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Conte qualified for CL, that's not failure.
 
Finney Is Back said:
I agree with you there…. Wasn’t their ownership structure a bit complicated at the time with both Usmanov and Kroenke holding large portions of shares?

I think there were also stories of money being there for Wenger to spend but him choosing not to spend it.

Your statement about Arsenal holding cash to underwrite the Rams stadium is wide of the mark I think. I’ve owned minority, majority and (effective) full stakes in many companies and have never had to hold cash reserves in one limited company for the sake of another.
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You'd know more than me. But as soon as the rams stadium was built and they won the superbowl. The floodgates opened for arsenal.

Anyway. Wrong thread.
 
DeanoAustin said:
To be fair Steff, a lot of fans did agree with both appointments (me included). There were also a bunch of people warning about both and who, in fairness, predicted very accurately how both reigns would pan out.

I can see the logic in why Levy went for Mourinho and Conte. It turns out he was wrong.
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I am liking your post mate, because you always strike for fair balance. Putting myself in Levy’s shoes, this was always going to be how he would behave. As was said at the time, that liar lied to sweet talk his way into the job, knowing Levy had a wang-doodle-danger for him, and he was always going to look at the CV and not the context of it with relation the club he runs because he simply is not a ‘human empathy’ person. I suppose once again more fool me for expecting him to truly recognise what he had back then, and why his subsequent appointments would never work (also chiefly because he is not a 250-300 million a window spender which both of those needed to even have a sniff)…
 
Finney Is Back said:
The absolute neglect of the scouting and recruitment departments was an even bigger issue. If the CEO wasn’t also the minority owner or the majority owner cared about the football club winning instead of only his net worth then the CEO would’ve lost his job IMO.
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I agree with this wholeheartedly. I think from a football perspective, it is undeniable that having a policy which revolves around young recruitment only to starve said depts of the very best funding is negligence.
 
thfcsteff said:
I agree with this wholeheartedly. I think from a football perspective, it is undeniable that having a policy which revolves around young recruitment only to starve said depts of the very best funding is negligence.
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Ah well mistakes have been made, it's a new start for us now. And since Paratici there haven't been many poor purchases at all and most of them with their best years ahead. Bentancur, Kulu, Bissouma, Sarr, Udogie, Romero, Richi (yeah that's right) and probably more I've forgotten. Spence looks like a punt that isn't going to work out, Perisic was very much a Conte signing. VDV looks the part already too, we are well set and much improved in this area I feel....
 
thfcsteff said:
I agree with this wholeheartedly. I think from a football perspective, it is undeniable that having a policy which revolves around young recruitment only to starve said depts of the very best funding is negligence.
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We have under used talent already in the youth
City got smashed yesterday which may be the standard of under 21s but our team was young and Jamie Donnely was the lad pulling the strings

I’m in France and a few of the Northern Irish lads I’ve met are from Antrim and they all know him even though he left there years ago

They all have great hopes that he won’t choose England
 
harr1984 said:
Ah well mistakes have been made, it's a new start for us now. And since Paratici there haven't been many poor purchases at all and most of them with their best years ahead. Bentancur, Kulu, Bissouma, Sarr, Udogie, Romero, Richi (yeah that's right) and probably more I've forgotten. Spence looks like a pint that isn't going to work out, Perisic was very much a Conte signing. VDV looks the part already too, we are well set and much improved in this area I feel....
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Luckily IMO Paratici is still around
He knows what was needed and is giving levy the guidance he needs
 
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