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Daniel Levy - Chairman

When you don't have the money of the big boys you're not likely to have a deep squad full of quality. Highlights the great job some of our managers have done in the past
 
billyiddo said:
When you don't have the money of the big boys you're not likely to have a deep squad full of quality. Highlights the great job some of our managers have done in the past
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Yup, some of of our managers have done fantastic jobs with one hand tied behind their back. Sadly they get no credit and get removed as soon as they no longer perform above par.
 
Bishop said:
Lack of depth..lack of quality. I can't beleive anyone thought we would actually beat lineup with that awful midfield and a half dead Harry Kane. If we had some depth we wouldnt have been playing flipping Winks and fudging Sissoko in a CL final. Thats actually a joke and a particularly unfunny one. Again some depth and maybe we wouldn't have felt forced to play our only decent striker even though we knew he was half fit. Lack of quality and depth is what always kills us and it never changes.
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Who picked the half dead Harry Kane over an in form player that had just scored a hattrick in the SF? (oh yes, must be fudging Levy again)
Who spent his preparation time talking about if he was going to stay at the club or if this was the pinnacle of achievements? while the opposition manager had his team acclimatizing in Spain and paying a La Liga team to play like Spurs against them in training sessions? (clearly Levy)
Who failed to motivate the team to actually play and not sleep walk through a CL final? (Levy again I guess)

On paper, we were underdogs, but form, the fact that Pool/Klopp had brick the bed in 4 previous finals, the fact that they weren't in great form, did not play a great game, that game was there for the taking, we didn't turn up, and that has nothing to do with the squad depth, it has to do with manager (but Poch is GHod around here, so we can't say that)

There have been many games where we were simply outgunned squad wise, that CL final was not one (you want to look at who had what to pull off the bench? we had Llorente & Lucas, they had fudging Origi & Gomez)
 
Raziel said:
Who picked the half dead Harry Kane over an in form player that had just scored a hattrick in the SF? (oh yes, must be fudging Levy again)
Who spent his preparation time talking about if he was going to stay at the club or if this was the pinnacle of achievements? while the opposition manager had his team acclimatizing in Spain and paying a La Liga team to play like Spurs against them in training sessions? (clearly Levy)
Who failed to motivate the team to actually play and not sleep walk through a CL final? (Levy again I guess)

On paper, we were underdogs, but form, the fact that Pool/Klopp had brick the bed in 4 previous finals, the fact that they weren't in great form, did not play a great game, that game was there for the taking, we didn't turn up, and that has nothing to do with the squad depth, it has to do with manager (but Poch is GHod around here, so we can't say that)

There have been many games where we were simply outgunned squad wise, that CL final was not one (you want to look at who had what to pull off the bench? we had Llorente & Lucas, they had fudging Origi & Gomez)
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Poch fudged up in the CL final, no doubt about that at all.
But if you need motivated to play in the biggest game in club football then you as a player and an individual have problems.
Problems we as a club just can't seem to address, because its been happening for 30 years.
How many of the finals or SFs we have lost can we honestly say that we were unlucky in, we turned up but it just didn't go our way?
We don't turn up, we believe that we won't win.
The biggest serial winner currently at work in football couldn't change that.
It seems like its our destiny.
 
Raziel said:
Who picked the half dead Harry Kane over an in form player that had just scored a hattrick in the SF? (oh yes, must be fudging Levy again)
Who spent his preparation time talking about if he was going to stay at the club or if this was the pinnacle of achievements? while the opposition manager had his team acclimatizing in Spain and paying a La Liga team to play like Spurs against them in training sessions? (clearly Levy)
Who failed to motivate the team to actually play and not sleep walk through a CL final? (Levy again I guess)

On paper, we were underdogs, but form, the fact that Pool/Klopp had brick the bed in 4 previous finals, the fact that they weren't in great form, did not play a great game, that game was there for the taking, we didn't turn up, and that has nothing to do with the squad depth, it has to do with manager (but Poch is GHod around here, so we can't say that)

There have been many games where we were simply outgunned squad wise, that CL final was not one (you want to look at who had what to pull off the bench? we had Llorente & Lucas, they had fudging Origi & Gomez)
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As usual in your analysis is laughable. Completely ignoring how good Liverpool were that season, that we had a midfield consisting of Winks and Sissoko and that since that final the "great squad" has not even looked like qualifying for the Champions League let alone get to the final. As for Kane any manager would play their best player if available. Liverpool were a better team than us that's why we lost.
 
Robspur12 said:
As usual in your analysis is laughable. Completely ignoring how good Liverpool were that season, that we had a midfield consisting of Winks and Sissoko and that since that final the "great squad" has not even looked like qualifying for the Champions League let alone get to the final. As for Kane any manager would play their best player if available. Liverpool were a better team than us that's why we lost.
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Top notch analysis right there, that's how football works? why the fudge does anyone turn up then ...
 
Raziel said:
Who picked the half dead Harry Kane over an in form player that had just scored a hattrick in the SF? (oh yes, must be fudging Levy again)
Who spent his preparation time talking about if he was going to stay at the club or if this was the pinnacle of achievements? while the opposition manager had his team acclimatizing in Spain and paying a La Liga team to play like Spurs against them in training sessions? (clearly Levy)
Who failed to motivate the team to actually play and not sleep walk through a CL final? (Levy again I guess)

On paper, we were underdogs, but form, the fact that Pool/Klopp had brick the bed in 4 previous finals, the fact that they weren't in great form, did not play a great game, that game was there for the taking, we didn't turn up, and that has nothing to do with the squad depth, it has to do with manager (but Poch is GHod around here, so we can't say that)

There have been many games where we were simply outgunned squad wise, that CL final was not one (you want to look at who had what to pull off the bench? we had Llorente & Lucas, they had fudging Origi & Gomez)
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You say Liverpool weren't in great form but we were in awful form in comparison to them so I think that's a bit of a nonsense take tbh. Liverpool were the better side that year in the league and the CL it was obvious. They finished 2nd on 97 points and they hadn't lost a league match in 5 months. You're delusional if you think they were in poor form, we were the side in brick form and had been for a long time (7 losses in 12 games directly leading to the final). [emoji1787]

The failings of the CL final were both a mixture of poor selection but also a weak squad to select from in the first place. You mention Llorente and Lucas as if they were good options they bloody weren't. Lucas is ok now 2 years later, he has his uses but let's not pretend his any sort of great player.

Go back and look at Liverpool's squad, go back and look at their performances and results and please with a straight face tell me we weren't outgunned in terms of quality. Remember that side came second with 97 fudging points and then went and won the PL the very next season.

They were the far better side, with the better squad and the better manager. There's this revisionist history among Spurs fans who for somehow try to cope with the losses by imagining reality to have been very different from what it was.
 
Bishop said:
You say Liverpool weren't in great form but we were in awful form in comparison to them so I think that's a bit of a nonsense take tbh. Liverpool were the better side that year in the league and the CL it was obvious. They finished 2nd on 97 points and they hadn't lost a league match in 5 months. You're delusional if you think they were in poor form, we were the side in brick form and had been for a long time (7 losses in 12 games directly leading to the final). [emoji1787]

The failings of the CL final were both a mixture of poor selection but also a weak squad to select from in the first place. You mention Llorente and Lucas as if they were good options they bloody weren't. Lucas is ok now 2 years later, he has his uses but let's not pretend his any sort of great player.

Go back and look at Liverpool's squad, go back and look at their performances and results and please with a straight face tell me we weren't outgunned in terms of quality. Remember that side came second with 97 fudging points and then went and won the PL the very next season.

They were the far better side, with the better squad and the better manager. There's this revisionist history among Spurs fans who for somehow try to cope with the losses by imagining reality to have been very different from what it was.
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This narrative that a team that reached two CL finals in a row, winning one of tbem, won a PL title at a canter and came second the year before with a record points total isn't a good team is bizarre.
 
glasgowspur said:
This narrative that a team that reached two CL finals in a row, winning one of tbem, won a PL title at a canter and came second the year before with a record points total isn't a good team is bizarre.
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It makes me wonder if Raziel watches football at all or just spreadsheets. [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
 
glasgowspur said:
This narrative that a team that reached two CL finals in a row, winning one of tbem, won a PL title at a canter and came second the year before with a record points total isn't a good team is bizarre.
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They we’re much better prepared than us for that final
Played games in the heat
Played against a team set up to play like us
And had familiarity with the pressure of that type of final
 
Bedfordspurs said:
They we’re much better prepared than us for that final
Played games in the heat
Played against a team set up to play like us
And had familiarity with the pressure of that type of final
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And far more importantly.... They were simply much better than us (as evidenced by their league points total that year and the year after and the fact that they beat us in every game they played against us).
 
Finney Is Back said:
And far more importantly.... They were simply much better than us (as evidenced by their league points total that year and the year after and the fact that they beat us in every game they played against us).
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In the game itself they didn’t very little
Scored a dodgy penalty
Sat back and met us huff and puff
And nicked another later on
Pretty much how we play now
 
Bedfordspurs said:
In the game itself they didn’t very little
Scored a dodgy penalty
Sat back and met us huff and puff
And nicked another later on
Pretty much how we play now
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They didn't need to do anymore than that though. They had a better attack than we did and a better defense (not even mentioning our abomination of a midfield at the time). They could play defensively as well as offensively, if we can manage that then maybe this system can work, as it is we have no versatility.
 
Bishop said:
They didn't need to do anymore than that though. They had a better attack than we did and a better defense (not even mentioning our abomination of a midfield at the time). They could play defensively as well as offensively, if we can manage that then maybe this system can work, as it is we have no versatility.
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As I say, they were better prepared
 
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