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Daniel Levy - Chairman

glasgowspur said:
I can find no sympathy for the top paid players.
Funneling what profits exactly into the clubs coffers?
If the players wage demands drive the club into the ground, then it's OK for them they can leave for another club that will pay them 10s or 100s of thousands of £ per week.
The poor sods who are non playing staff don't have that luxury.
The players do not come out of this at all IMHO.
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Isn’t the problem that players have too much power since that dreaded Bosman ruling now it’s gone too far.
A salary cap across all European leagues would help level the field.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Wrong the deal covers 6 teams owned by them
Keep them coming
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Oh please! How much of that £650 million do Emirates Marketing Project get and how much do those 5 other clubs get? You’re clutching at straws there.

The other 5 clubs are: Emirates Marketing Project women, Melbourne FC, Girona, Atlético Torque, and the Sichuan Jiuniu FC. Let’s be generous to those other clubs and give them £80 million of the £650 million between them. Do you really think Spurs’ deal with Nike is anywhere near Emirates Marketing Project’s or are you arguing for the sake of it?
 
spitshine said:
Isn’t the problem that players have too much power since that dreaded Bosman ruling now it’s gone too far.
A salary cap across all European leagues would help level the field.
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Can the footballers have too much power in football? They are football.
 
Grays_1890 said:
3 cups over 5 years isn’t the level of glory that people try and pass off. You can’t deny through fact that Spurs as a club has always underachieved, always. Best team by a country mile in 61 and done nothing after. Villa, Everton, Leeds and Forest done more.

It’s a club built on romantic notion and sound bites around years of underachievement, it’s an utter fact.
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Sad but true - I see three pivotal moments. The first was woolwich’s move from south london. It gave us great derby’s and a huge rival but without it they would have been another leyton orient or charlton and we would have been infinitely bigger and likely more successful without the competition.

The second was the failure of the 61 side with greaves added to it, to go on and win more league titles and the european cup.

The third was when we showed ken bates how to get success when we signed popescu, dimitrescu and klinsmann. There was a glut of talent on the continent that could be signed at higher than average prices back then, but they were head and shoulders above the vast majority of the british players in the 90s. But whilst sugar quickly turned away from that strategy, bates saw what it could lead to and proceeded over the next few years to buy an incredible amount of such players. In doing so the utter brick chelsea become a serious force, whilst we became utter brick. Meanwhile the goons signed bergkamp and then got wenger.

The rest is history as they say.
 
Parklaner81 said:
Not that I'm aware of, though it wouldn't necessarily surprise me if I were to learn otherwise.

People have however suggested that the THFC directors should do so, and it was from discussion of that the comment arose.
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Indeed I did. Unless your MD's company is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and unless she and her board take home millions between them each year, it isn't the same though.

I'd be far less interested in what they were doing with their pay if we weren't using the furlough scheme in an almost unique way compared to our peers.

I am fully aware that it is at odds with the tide of opinion of most on this thread/board though.
 
Hootnow said:
Indeed I did. Unless your MD's company is worth hundreds of millions of dollars and unless she and her board take home millions between them each year, it isn't the same though.
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It isn't, and those differences had already been made clear in the discussion by the poster to whom my comments were responding.
 
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Bedfordspurs said:
TBF Levy has confirmed a few times our deal is different to everyone else’s in that we have something like retained rights for sales... or something like that
I believe it means:
Everyone else get a lump sum for theirs
We get a smaller lump sum but a % of sales as a “royalty”. That’s how i interpreted it
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That is true. Even if we imagined as much s £10 per shirt (I would imagine it’s less than half that in reality) that would be £2m PA for 200,000 shirts sold.
 
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Grays_1890 said:
3 cups over 5 years isn’t the level of glory that people try and pass off. You can’t deny through fact that Spurs as a club has always underachieved, always. Best team by a country mile in 61 and done nothing after. Villa, Everton, Leeds and Forest done more.

It’s a club built on romantic notion and sound bites around years of underachievement, it’s an utter fact.
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And there you say it again ‘done nothing after’.... We didn’t ‘do nothing after’ at all. We won 2 more FA Cups and became the first British club to win a European trophy. I wish we’d done a comparative ‘nothing’ in these last 6 years.
 
Finney Is Back said:
And there you say it again ‘done nothing after’.... We didn’t ‘do nothing after’ at all. We won 2 more FA Cups and became the first British club to win a European trophy. I wish we’d done a comparative ‘nothing’ in these last 6 years.
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We also won the Peace Cup a while back. What a parade we had for that trophy.
 
Finney Is Back said:
And there you say it again ‘done nothing after’.... We didn’t ‘do nothing after’ at all. We won 2 more FA Cups and became the first British club to win a European trophy. I wish we’d done a comparative ‘nothing’ in these last 6 years.
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Different game back then, doesn’t translate to today, I’m pretty sure we haven’t won either domestic cup for a while, but had we won a couple of them in the last few years I’d probably have forgotten them by now anyway.
 
Finney Is Back said:
And there you say it again ‘done nothing after’.... We didn’t ‘do nothing after’ at all. We won 2 more FA Cups and became the first British club to win a European trophy. I wish we’d done a comparative ‘nothing’ in these last 6 years.
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Nothing in comparison to the belief that we were a regular cup winning side, we were serial underachievers, we were famous for it.

Hoddle has to be begged to stay for one more year in 87 and left because of it. Waddle left because of it. GHod even Jennings jumped ship because of it.

The clubs history is littered with underachieving even Clive Allen’s goal scoring record yielded no trophies but we celebrate his record like a trophy. We have a history of celebrating players we had rather than times we won, that’s what we are famous for, the club that always had a big player, the romance we paint outweighs our achievements.

So this current period isn’t hugely off scale and like I said we have been in finals and semis and fallen at hurdles, often losing to teams we beat twice in the league convincingly aka Man United and Chelsea in recent years so that’s not all on Levy.

End of the day I’m not knocking Spurs history I love it and it’s why I support the club, I do so without a caveat of needing to win things, I’m just realistic and honest about what we have been and what we are as a club.

And I’m not pro or against Levy, I’m pro Spurs, I just don’t see your points as valid TBH as you might not see mine. That’s the name of the game and the forum.
 
AjaxDeSuperYids said:
Sad but true - I see three pivotal moments. The first was woolwich’s move from south london. It gave us great derby’s and a huge rival but without it they would have been another leyton orient or charlton and we would have been infinitely bigger and likely more successful without the competition.

The second was the failure of the 61 side with greaves added to it, to go on and win more league titles and the european cup.

The third was when we showed ken bates how to get success when we signed popescu, dimitrescu and klinsmann. There was a glut of talent on the continent that could be signed at higher than average prices back then, but they were head and shoulders above the vast majority of the british players in the 90s. But whilst sugar quickly turned away from that strategy, bates saw what it could lead to and proceeded over the next few years to buy an incredible amount of such players. In doing so the utter brick chelsea become a serious force, whilst we became utter brick. Meanwhile the goons signed bergkamp and then got wenger.

The rest is history as they say.
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And I’m not knocking it, I love it, I love the romantic idea we were this ultra huge trophy club but we were more times than not a club that could have a cup run or lose 7-0 away to Liverpool.

The stories I grew up with from my dad were amazing but when you grow up and work it out most were laden with pain or falling at last fence sandwiched with some Cup wins “we always win when the year ends in 1”

To judge Levy on the lack of trophies is valid but we haven’t gone from United Fergie to United now. We have gone from me going to each game with a chance of a result every time, home and away, a consistent 10 years where we have served up more CL football than in our history. I take that over Sugars years and the league cup under Graham.
 
galeforce said:
Different game back then, doesn’t translate to today, I’m pretty sure we haven’t won either domestic cup for a while, but had we won a couple of them in the last few years I’d probably have forgotten them by now anyway.
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Easy to say that as a defence mechanism when we don’t win any. The real top clubs look to do well in the league, CL AND win trophies.
 
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