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Cristian Romero

DubSpur said:
Just because he won the ball doesn't stop it from being a red. He was still reckless with the follow through and endangered his opponent.
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I just don't see it as excessive or reckless, but I'll admit I'm quite old school in my thinking regarding fouls. I'm not of this "there was contact" school of thought. For something to be a foul it actually has to an actual foul for me. The player needs to be impeded or in this case, you win the ball you're allowed to contact the opponent especially if you're first and you're actually clearing the ball, physics doesn't allow a leg to just stop dead after contacting the ball. But as I said we will likely never see it the same way.

And to be 100% this is neither a Romero or a Spurs thing. I don't even think Romero is as good a defender as many harp on about and if that had been Casemiro getting sent off I'd say the exact same thing as I have any time an opposition player wrongly imo has been sent off against us or a penalty wasn't given
 
Bishop said:
He actually got their first, won the ball and his follow through caught Casemiro. He was still sent off. He got the red because the red saw it as "another Romero reckless challenge" rather than the content and context of actually what happened.
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He uses excessive force which is another thing the officials look at when assessing if a tackle deserves a card. He has a reputation for a reason.
 
Robspur12 said:
Compare and contrast Romero to Palhinha. Both are tough tacklers both are leaders but Palhinha is much more controlled and focused on just winning the ball when he tackles and does so, mostly cleanly (even then he often gets carded harshly like today). Romero is so often reckless when tackling, I think because he overcommits and that's before you consider that he is also not great at reading the game so gets caught out of position.

Personally I don't think Romero is a great defender at all. In fact I think Palhinha is better. Just think back to how brilliantly Palhinha marshalled Semenyo last week. Could Romero have done that? For me the answer unfortunately is no.
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I concur, I keep seeing Romero mentioned as a World Class defender, what defensive skill does he have that is truly World class?
 
Bishop said:
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I just don't see it as excessive or reckless, but I'll admit I'm quite old school in my thinking regarding fouls. I'm not of this "there was contact" school of thought. For something to be a foul it actually has to an actual foul for me. The player needs to be impeded or in this case, you win the ball you're allowed to contact the opponent especially if you're first and you're actually clearing the ball, physics doesn't allow a leg to just stop dead after contacting the ball. But as I said we will likely never see it the same way.

And to be 100% this is neither a Romero or a Spurs thing. I don't even think Romero is as good a defender as many harp on about and if that had been Casemiro getting sent off I'd say the exact same thing as I have any time an opposition player wrongly imo has been sent off against us or a penalty wasn't given
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That's what you want the rules to be, and how it was years ago. However, the way the rules are implemented today it is a red all day long.

And 100% agree that Romero is not a good defender.
 
demotw said:
Don’t think you can link the two, he isn’t wrong in terms of what he said.

As for the sending off, as per normal short term memories - it’s pretty much been Romero dragging us forward the last few weeks, while clearly he has faults (or he would be at Madrid tbh) he is and has been one of our best players even when everyone else has looked crap. Heck as a CB he is one of our top scorers trying to be everywhere. I’m not defending the Red (nor aiming at you Dante just happened to reply to your post) but maybe if he didn’t feel like he had to do everything he could actually focus on def.
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Look back through this thread and I’ve been one of the biggest supporters of Romero. His act was a disgrace yesterday. I don’t think he needed to go in for the challenge in the way that he did. His tackle was reckless and his red card cost us the match.

But he remains our best centre back defensively. His passion stands out and he leads us by trying to put fires out all over the pitch. But there is a point at which if he oversteps it and costs the team, you can’t say well done Romero, another top level performance. Especially not in a week within which he has seemingly been openly critical of ENIC. I share his sentiments about ENIC so it’s not the content of what he says that are the issue for me, but more that if he says it openly as captain and then a week later gets himself sent off in a key fixture then that doesn’t reflect well.

We are chaotic as a team. We have some growth over the past month or so. Romero has too much on him at times, hence him running around getting stuck in whilst also scoring key goals for us. We need the rest of the team to stand up, to battle and give their all. We need players to not need Romero running into their segments of play. We need to be led by Romero to being better and to realising Romero’s full potential too as I think he can be even better than he has been. I think he still has an extra gear and have no doubt that should he leave and join a club at a higher level then he will find that.

We are lucky to have a centre back pairing of VDV and Romero if only we were so lucky elsewhere on the pitch with the quality in our team.
 
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