thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
If he was feverish then Ange should've started Dragusin.
I think the travel details are actually really massive details. Sonny looked tired too, and I have to wonder if we adopt the same approach with him.
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Cristian Romero
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If he was feverish then Ange should've started Dragusin.
I think the travel details are actually really massive details. Sonny looked tired too, and I have to wonder if we adopt the same approach with him.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
I think these details are vital in an era where players are already grossly over-played and travel more in a season than any previous generation to fulfil various confederations needs. Unfortunately it is seen as excessive, when I personally think that the extra day is often vital in rest and recovery. Works the same in other entertainment professions too. NOT environmentally friendly I will concede!!!
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
He did have an extra day as it was a rest day anyway
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
That's the point, he didn't, he spent it traveling.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
So he rested the other side in Argentina
It’s not the reason he switched off
We need to stop making excuses for repeat offenders because we know their good players. We need to be making them more accountable because there good players
You mentioned Sonny and he has a decal on to make IMO. He is super proud to play for Korea. We have his fans at every game. But if it’s breaking him he needs to think about his priorities. He did look tired on Sunday but he also looks like a guy who doesn’t know how to play this game. He needs to weigh up what he does now to end his career and maybe sacrificing some things along the way, like he has done all his career to get here. Could be the international football is going to break his club form …
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
This guy is on what, £100k a week?
He can't organise /afford a private jet once a month?
His agent can't wangle him a net jets sponsorship?
This is probably about the worst excuse I've heard.
Get a grip or gettae.
He can't organise /afford a private jet once a month?
His agent can't wangle him a net jets sponsorship?
This is probably about the worst excuse I've heard.
Get a grip or gettae.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
I disagree re: travel.
It makes all the difference if that extra day/those extra hours are back where you're going to be training the following day. It also (like it or not) sends a clear message if others from the region are going back with special club arrangements.
We have no idea why he switched/has switched off this season, but we need to do everything we can to ensure there are no excuses IMO.
Regarding Sonny, absolutely looked tired, but again, we did nothing to help whatsoever with our slow laborious build. I think we're in overall agreement on the general stuff, tis the details.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
As is the case, whatever is necessary. I think again though whether we like it/agree or not, there is a perception that is set, as well as the very physical reality that half his 'day off' is spent traveling. In order to actually get the full day off, he should've been out of there late Tuesday night. IMO.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
The only reason Romero should be on the bench is if he needs a rest or Ange wants to prioritise giving Dragusin minutes in a cup game.
Even if accepting every defensive moment he gets the blame for this season that's still a handful of moments across four games. After having been a very good defender for us for quite a while now.
He is by far our best ball playing centre back and is really important to how we play. If Ange didn't want him to take time on the ball surely by now Romero would have gotten that message...
People complain about other players just playing safe passes. Romero mostly takes time on the ball when opponents are settled, when quick passes aren't particularly useful to our style of play. He plays with risk, invites pressure and more often than not finds a purposeful pass rather than just shifting it quickly to a teammate and shift the responsibility to make something happen to someone else.
There were several situations even in just the Arsenal game where him taking time on the ball helped us bypass lines of their defence. If only others would similarly take responsibility, believe in themselves and try to make something useful happen we'd be a better team.
Even if accepting every defensive moment he gets the blame for this season that's still a handful of moments across four games. After having been a very good defender for us for quite a while now.
He is by far our best ball playing centre back and is really important to how we play. If Ange didn't want him to take time on the ball surely by now Romero would have gotten that message...
People complain about other players just playing safe passes. Romero mostly takes time on the ball when opponents are settled, when quick passes aren't particularly useful to our style of play. He plays with risk, invites pressure and more often than not finds a purposeful pass rather than just shifting it quickly to a teammate and shift the responsibility to make something happen to someone else.
There were several situations even in just the Arsenal game where him taking time on the ball helped us bypass lines of their defence. If only others would similarly take responsibility, believe in themselves and try to make something useful happen we'd be a better team.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Top post, I can not really understand why some fans have decided that Romero is not a very good player. i know its all about o pinions but i really can not understand why this is the case. ALL players make mistakes even the best ones but he is top class IMO.
metalgear
Luka Modric
its the frequency of errors in a short span and his somewhat very lack of urgency that irritates.
like last season's crazy sliding tackles and red cards - very poor decision making and irritating too
he can and has to improve but looking more lively and hungry to run for the ball even if it looks like a lost cause goes a long way in the optics of things
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
I think that's true. Very true. But so are the others posters worries about his lapses in noticing/concentration. Both views can co-exist.
The problem with concentration/awareness issues is it can't largely be coached. Ironically Romero has great concentration when in sniper mode BUT doesn't notice when the enemy is coming in the back door.
I would agree though, I'm not dropping him from the team anytime soon.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
He was interviews by Ben Haines 2 days before and he said how fatgiued he was from his Korean duties
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
Do you think the abuse allegations against his father and older brother have affected him? I'd speculate it has to be affecting him?
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
I think people forget our superstars are also people as well and will have issues in life, at home, etc just like us
So 100% it could be affecting him
I think this is some straw clutching Steff. Not doubting it's not playing on his mind at all, but the facts are he is 32 years old, doesn't have that explosive pace anymore, never really possessed the skill to beat a man one on one so without the pace it's being exposed more and his all round play has never been great. Hes not suited to be a winger in Anges system that asks winger to stay wide and we all know his attributes aren't great for being CF even though his finishing is great - unless we can play Everton every week.
Unfortunately he's just another great player who is now on the decline somewhat - just thankful he was here for us to witness peak Son....
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
I’m not sure he is on decline but he isn’t suited to possession football.
Muttley
Richard Gough
I've always thought that you need to have a happy player to have a great player.
Then you imagine how big these countries are and how important it is for these guys to see their loved ones who may be in a different location to the match. If Romero is leaving from a different airport because he is spending quality time with his parents or siblings then so be it. If that helps him as he heads back to a foreign country to do well in his profession then I have no problem with that. As long as it doesn't impact our schedule.
I think Romero will just get more consistent as he gets a little older. He can do slightly better in some key decision moments but I'm not sure we'll ever see a centre half who is dominant in the air. No doubt he will look so much better in La Liga as it's so much easier to be a defender. The PL is the toughest apprenticeship a defender can have in my opinion.
Then you imagine how big these countries are and how important it is for these guys to see their loved ones who may be in a different location to the match. If Romero is leaving from a different airport because he is spending quality time with his parents or siblings then so be it. If that helps him as he heads back to a foreign country to do well in his profession then I have no problem with that. As long as it doesn't impact our schedule.
I think Romero will just get more consistent as he gets a little older. He can do slightly better in some key decision moments but I'm not sure we'll ever see a centre half who is dominant in the air. No doubt he will look so much better in La Liga as it's so much easier to be a defender. The PL is the toughest apprenticeship a defender can have in my opinion.
thfcsteff
Garth Crooks
He did brilliantly with Poch. I don't think his issues are that simple...