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Coronavirus

scaramanga said:
These aren't normal cold and flu symptoms though are they?

In fact, in the *cough* decades I've been alive, I've never once seen anyone with these symptoms who didn't have pneumonia - and they didn't.
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There is so much we still don't know about this virus, which is why I think it's right to remain cautious about it. This is interesting; it details what I suppose would be recorded as mild symptoms, given there was no hospitalisation involved.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...advent-calendar-covid-19-symptoms-paul-garner
 
Interesting that the r-rate in London is now thought to be significantly lower than most other regions.

Given that London was ahead of the rest of the country at the front end of the epidemic does this suggest a 'natural' peaking of infections, rather than being largely influenced by the lockdown? If the lockdown were responsible for the drop (or at least, for the bulk of it), why are other regions signifcantly higher after close to two months of restrictions?
 
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Parklaner81 said:
Interesting that the r-rate in London is now thought to be significantly lower than most other regions.

Given that London was ahead of the rest of the country at the front end of the epidemic, does this suggest a 'natural' peaking of infections rather than being largely influenced by the lockdown? If the lockdown were responsible for the drop (or at least, for the bulk of it), why are other regions signifcantly higher after close to two months of restrictions?
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It's clear the situation in London has improved, but it's unlikley to be as positive as painted in some media quarters. In the article below, SAGE seem to be wary.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...fter-rising-over-past-week-sage-says-11988983
 
Parklaner81 said:
Interesting that the r-rate in London is now thought to be significantly lower than most other regions.

Given that London was ahead of the rest of the country at the front end of the epidemic, does this suggest a 'natural' peaking of infections rather than being largely influenced by the lockdown? If the lockdown were responsible for the drop (or at least, for the bulk of it), why are other regions signifcantly higher after close to two months of restrictions?
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If you allow for the fact that being infectious leads symptoms by up to two weeks, the peak was around a week or two before the lockdown started anyway.

That's from the figures we have seen published and assuming there isn't a large number of people who have had it without symptoms.
 
Parklaner81 said:
Interesting that the r-rate in London is now thought to be significantly lower than most other regions.

Given that London was ahead of the rest of the country at the front end of the epidemic, does this suggest a 'natural' peaking of infections rather than being largely influenced by the lockdown? If the lockdown were responsible for the drop (or at least, for the bulk of it), why are other regions signifcantly higher after close to two months of restrictions?
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Or is it that us London lot are smarter than the peasants elsewhere and have taken it more seriously?

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JerusalemMan said:
Just excess deaths? Not explicitly coronavirus?
So could be people dying of things that were treatable but ended up fatal due to staying away from hospital.
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Possibly, but you have to factor in the reduction in deaths because people aren't driving their cars into things, etc.
 
scaramanga said:
Possibly, but you have to factor in the reduction in deaths because people aren't driving their cars into things, etc.
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I suppose normal flu isn’t included because this has replaced it in terms of deaths? Aka all flu like deaths are counted as CV so that’s 20,000 accounted for
 
scaramanga said:
Possibly, but you have to factor in the reduction in deaths because people aren't driving their cars into things, etc.
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I think some of the people who drive their cars into things are the type of idiots who don't listen overly to government guidelines about lockdown and social distancing. And so will still drive into things.
 
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