He's Theo Walcott incarnate. Can run really fast in a straight line and scores tap ins. Useful in a team if used correctly, like Sterling at City.
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Brennan Johnson
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He's Theo Walcott incarnate. Can run really fast in a straight line and scores tap ins. Useful in a team if used correctly, like Sterling at City.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
I’m perplexed that so many think him and the forwards in general are of a similar quality to last season’s top 3.
Spot on. Was thinking exactly the same.
Bishop
Nick Barmby
I think this is very accurate. Makes me look at him a little less harshly tbh. We need the starting guy to come in for him.
Jurgen the German
Willie Hall
To be fair to him, some of the goals he has scored this season have been really good finishes, the Brighton goal comes to mind. But I don’t disagree most of his contributions have been getting on the end of essentially open goals and he needs to do more.
Mikey10
Pedro Mendes
We're back to Shearer's comments on us during commentary last night, as I mentioned in another thread. We are stocked with good players (who will perform at a good level 5 or 6 times out of 10) and have few (any?) excellent players (who will perform at a high level 9 or 10 times out of 10).
Johnson fits snugly into the first category. He might grow into the second category, if given the right coaching, and with other conditions working in his favour.
Johnson fits snugly into the first category. He might grow into the second category, if given the right coaching, and with other conditions working in his favour.
Son (our captain 
) has one outfield goal in his last 13 games, and does naff all in terms of creation. Not sure why Johnson who is our top scorer is the one whose thread is getting bumped. PS Ange, every man and his dog knows playing him on the left is not the way to go....
) has one outfield goal in his last 13 games, and does naff all in terms of creation. Not sure why Johnson who is our top scorer is the one whose thread is getting bumped. PS Ange, every man and his dog knows playing him on the left is not the way to go....
Bishop
Nick Barmby
Because we know Son is a lost cause at this point. What's the point of asking for more from him, he's an empty toothpaste tube at the point.Son (our captain
With Johnson we need more and the expectation is hopefully he can develop an all around game and actually contribute beyond finishing chances.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Thing is, both of them provide nothing apart from finishing, so you are expecting 8 outfield players to provide chances, instead of 10. You are also expecting 8 outfield players to defend, instead of 10.Son (our captain
Son isn't providing finishing, that's what I'm saying. Johnson at least is posting decent figures, something none of our other forwards are doing so for me sure there might be better wingers out there but Johnson is the least of the problems in that area right now....
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
He won’t develop though if he is playing every game with no coaching time
We need options
Options with the right ability… availability
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Only in terms of goals. In terms of progressing the ball and defending, not a lot.
Put it this way, if his goals are cancelled out by his non defending leading to to goals conceded, it's a net zero contribution. Which is pretty much where we are as a team.
Bishop
Nick Barmby
Exactly this. It's all the things he's not doing outside finishing chances. He rarely contributed defensively, he rarely contributes in possession. We do need our wide players to be doing these things.
metalgear
Luka Modric
ange is playing neither johnson or son to their strengths.
he was lucky with kulu, who was introduced in centre mid when maddiosn's form dipped.
feel like ange needs players to play his system and can't get the best configuration to fit who is available and on form
no way you can do that and challenge for honours in a ultra competitive league like the EPL, unless you have load of cash like Emirates Marketing Project to get the best player in each position
he was lucky with kulu, who was introduced in centre mid when maddiosn's form dipped.
feel like ange needs players to play his system and can't get the best configuration to fit who is available and on form
no way you can do that and challenge for honours in a ultra competitive league like the EPL, unless you have load of cash like Emirates Marketing Project to get the best player in each position
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
You’re saying Johnson is leading to us conceding goals?
I can think of one vs Ipswich
fernadez
Jermaine Jenas
The Son and Johnson contrubtion thing is why some have said including myself that we look better with Werner in the team. I'm not saying he's a better player but he plays the wing role for Ange better than the other players. He stays wide, takes his man on, runs forward to stretch the play etc. He misses a load of chances but I maintain that he's doing something right to get into the position to miss them. Nobody else seems to take as many shots as he does, or be in those 1v1 situations.
I don't know if he's ignoring the managers instructions and just playing his natural game, or he's the only one following them properly but the balance is just much better. Similar to when Perisic was here. Johnson seems to being played on the hope he'll get onto a cross and Son cause he has the armband. And again, if our winger scores but doesn't track back and we concede from a cross at the far post, was there really any point?
I don't know if he's ignoring the managers instructions and just playing his natural game, or he's the only one following them properly but the balance is just much better. Similar to when Perisic was here. Johnson seems to being played on the hope he'll get onto a cross and Son cause he has the armband. And again, if our winger scores but doesn't track back and we concede from a cross at the far post, was there really any point?
He's played 21 games,scored 10 goals. A one in two goal ratio is a good return and as a forward a key output. If all our forwards had such numbers then I'd be happy to critique Johnson's all round game further, I'm not suggesting he is the finished article. But we have one striker who has a good all round game and I like a lot but has barely scored, Richi who is always injured, Werner who can be a threat but lacks end product for the most part, Son who can barely score and doesn't create, Odabert who looks to have potential but has acquired the injury curse nice and early into his career - so forgive me if I would like to appreciate the fact we have a forward who can actually show some level of consistency in terms of finding the net.
I'm also not convinced he has cost us anywhere near 10 goals this season either....
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Werner makes us more balanced because he sticks to the task in hand
He also never shirks
Bishop
Nick Barmby
Because you think he's performing the best out of a bad lot does not make his performance good just better than the others. For me NONE of the wide players are good enough, none provide enough, create enough, help in possession enough or help progress the ball well etc but I've been saying this since last season. I said it this summer. I'll probably still be saying it next summer.
In terms of costing us goals hmm yes I think he does. He averages around 30 touches a game, almost always the lowest of any of our players and sometimes even lower than subs that come on. So he's quite a passenger other than in those moments where he finishes chances. To some extent we are playing with 10 men when he's on the pitch due to his non involvement. That contributes to the times we lose the ball and can't regain control because we are playing with a numbers deficit especially if Son is on the other side also not really contributing. Son has a lot more touches but they aren't necessarily useful touches but he's at least somewhat involved in the game.