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Believing the Hype?

Sheffield Spur said:
The Gruaniad article.

Well well well.

Our Mr Redknapp thought he had the England manager job all sewn up, from February onwards. Spurs season goes tits up. Redknapp also insults the fans repeatedly when criticism of him rises. He thinks fudge 'em, I'm off anyway. Only now he isn't, and a lot of fans aren't pleased with our season being wrecked. Sticky wicket time for HR.

This article reeks of another damage limitation exercise, with carefully released information to select journalists. Redknapp and the club know a lot of fans are tinkled at our disastrous slump, and want Redknapp out. Despite previous denials, the position has shifted, and now its.... well, it could have had some effect. To say otherwise would be absurd, because its obvious it had a negative effect, and the timing of the article is immaculate.
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Are you Leeds Spur in disguise?
 
I would soooooo love Harry to be gone at the summer, he thought he could walk away from us with a chushy England job, now no England job and I really hope he gets told where to go by us also.

Notice how not once there did I call him a twitchy bastard or a saggy faced taco ? Getting better arent I ?
 
Dear OP,

What do you expect from Spurs? To not play at our best every game? Well I do. We are a team who certainly do have the potential of being the 3rd best team in the league with our current squad, and we WOULD be there right now if we hadn't dropped stupid points such as Norwich and Stoke at home.

Overachieving is a myth. You can't play better than you are. If we are not playing to the best of our ability I have every right to be angry, because that means the players are letting the fans down by not trying hard enough, not because they just can't do it. I don't care about what I expected before the season began, because I hadn't seen any of the new teams play. I may have even expected Liverpool to be in the top 4. Sure, we weren't going to win every game, but I wasn't expecting Spurs to take 6 points from 9 games, or what ever it was.

As a fan I have the right to have high expectations, and the players have a duty to not let me down. If we don't qualify for the Champions league next season it won't be because we don't have the ability, it will be due to other things.
 
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Jurgen the German said:
It's one the of main reasons why Spurs fans are hated so much. We have some of the most unrealistic fans in this country. Look at the manager threads. It's Mourinho next or nobody at all. Doesn't matter that he's already at the biggest club in the world, he'll leave and come to Spurs tomorrow.

I'm tinkled off at how quickly we threw 3rd away, but I had absolutely no expectations whatsoever about winning the title or maintaining a challenge.
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I don't think anyone had any expectations to win the title; its just that massive bad run we had that has made people doubt Redknapp when we were in a great position. If these results were spread out over the season you could argue there has been some consistency in the way we played. However the fact was that they were all clumped together and it was worrying how difficult it would be to find some form and how clueless we were to change it. It has shown a massive weakness it redknapps management of the club, all of this could have been avoided by having a more succesful jan window and by rotating the squad more.
 
Couldn't give a fudge if we're hated. We are Tottenham, from The Lane. Nice guys get fudged off and slink away.

Man Utd and Emirates Marketing Project fans are all scummy ****s.
 
punk_is_back` said:
I don't think anyone had any expectations to win the title; its just that massive bad run we had that has made people doubt Redknapp when we were in a great position. If these results were spread out over the season you could argue there has been some consistency in the way we played. However the fact was that they were all clumped together and it was worrying how difficult it would be to find some form and how clueless we were to change it. It has shown a massive weakness it redknapps management of the club, all of this could have been avoided by having a more succesful jan window and by rotating the squad more.
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Two years in a row we've had big collapses in the second half of the season. One of the main reasons is we didn't bring in a decent striker in the January windows, we still don't score enough goals considering the quality of the midfield and the chances they create. I'd like Levy to take a gamble and give Redknapp significant funds for a striker.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Two years in a row we've had big collapses in the second half of the season. One of the main reasons is we didn't bring in a decent striker in the January windows, we still don't score enough goals considering the quality of the midfield and the chances they create. I'd like Levy to take a gamble and give Redknapp significant funds for a striker.
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Well I think Levy was prepared to have taken a gamble, its just that the players we identified were not able to move. We had a bid for Remy rejected in Jan whilst last season Redknapp changed his mind on signing Suarez. The money is there and has been given to Redknapp but I don't think we're identifying players who want to come and play at our level.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Two years in a row we've had big collapses in the second half of the season. One of the main reasons is we didn't bring in a decent striker in the January windows, we still don't score enough goals considering the quality of the midfield and the chances they create. I'd like Levy to take a gamble and give Redknapp significant funds for a striker.
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Two successive collapses in the latter half of the season. Agreed. Thats dreadful.

We didn't bring in a decent striker. Agreed. Thats a repetitive theme thats gone on for years, and is woeful. But when we did go for one bigtime, we dithered and lost out. Suarez. Please don't anyone answer with I don't like him... On the pitch he has been a huge success for Liverpool. He would have well suited Spurs.

I think Levy will be highly reluctant to spend really big money on a Redknapp choice of striker, or more likely two.
 
Sheffield Spur said:
Two successive collapses in the latter half of the season. Agreed. Thats dreadful.

We didn't bring in a decent striker. Agreed. Thats a repetitive theme thats gone on for years, and is woeful. But when we did go for one bigtime, we dithered and lost out. Suarez. Please don't anyone answer with I don't like him... On the pitch he has been a huge success for Liverpool. He would have well suited Spurs.

I think Levy will be highly reluctant to spend really big money on a Redknapp choice of striker, or more likely two.
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fantastic double standards

Redknapp rejected for all kinds of character defects and flaws, questions over his understanding of whats legal (despite being cleared in the high courts)

but you'd happily play a cheating racist?

coooooooooool, nice moral compass you got there.

(devils advocate brick BTW, I'd happily sign Suarez - anyone who can bag a hattrick like he did at the weekend is good enough for me, and if he can sing like Freddie Mercury as well as look like him - double bubble!)
 
mick cooper said:
you see your version of the truth, and you are comfortable with it.

That doesn't mean its 100% accurate - or the truth at all.
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I would say that Spurs unbelievable collapse from February, and the reason for that being at management level, is pretty much nailed on. Undeniable, from where I'm looking. Talk about snatching defeat from the jams of victory (a Spurs specialism). I'd say that is 100% accurate.
 
mick cooper said:
fantastic double standards

Redknapp rejected for all kinds of character defects and flaws, questions over his understanding of whats legal (despite being cleared in the high courts)

but you'd happily play a cheating racist?

coooooooooool, nice moral compass you got there.

(devils advocate brick BTW, I'd happily sign Suarez - anyone who can bag a hattrick like he did at the weekend is good enough for me, and if he can sing like Freddie Mercury as well as look like him - double bubble!)
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Redknapp is a grossly overrated manager IMHO.

Suarez is a superb striker, also IMHO.

How is that double standards?
 
I can safely say that if Redknapp bought Suarez in the Summer I'd turn into an instant Harry hater. And Levy hater for that matter. I'd hate anyone who had anything to do with bringing him to the club. The day Suarez signs for Spurs is a day I put my support for the club on hold until he has gone. Horrid, horrid player.
 
Sheffield Spur said:
I would say that Spurs unbelievable collapse from February, and the reason for that being at management level, is pretty much nailed on. Undeniable, from where I'm looking. Talk about snatching defeat from the jams of victory (a Spurs specialism). I'd say that is 100% accurate.
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Unbelieveable collapse?

Good grief

We lost to the 2nd and 3rd placed teams in the league

Drew away to Chelsea and Sunderland (who have been a revelation since O'Niell took over)

Lost by a breakaway goal after battering Everton on their own ground (31 shots to their 13, 61% possession, 8 corners to their 0 etc etc) and made them look like a championship team
Did the same to QPR, almost identical stats

biggest fudgeup - losing at home to Norwich, one game in which we looked curiously out of sorts, despite the usual possession and shots on goal advantages

Then the semi - where a first class referee completely destroyed the game by awarding a goal that never happened - OK the collapse was embarassing, but understandable to a degree. Injustice does things to peoples equilibrium

If those results had been interwoven into the rest of the season, no-one would have bitched about it. The fact that we have developed a bit of a problem, in that we are now the victims of our own success, everyone knows that if they come at us and try to play, unless they are a top side, they will get battered, so they play a 1-8-2 formation and wait for a breakaway. Why is that?

Its because we have a good manager, with a good set up of training staff, who have got Spurs playing some bloody good football, if we had a Suarez, Falcao, Van Persie, Huntelaar or Rooney we would score more of the chances we create, but we don't. Because they cost a brick load of money, and require salaries that have to be delivered by securicor, and we don't play that game.

Yep, HR doesn't shoulder the blame and throw himself on his sword enough for you and other fans of your inclination, neither does he immolate himself in the centre circle to atone for everyones hurt feelings, yada yada yada

But he's got me watching a team who play in a way that makes me proud to say they are my team, and he has produced and managed a side that puts the fear of GHod into everyone who plays them.

You can look past Suarez's defects as a human, but you can't with HR. You accept Suarez for what he delivers, but you can't see past your own prejudice to recognise what Harry has achieved.

My glass is half full mate, in fact fudge it - I'd say it was around 90% full actually, and I'm looking forward to seeing my team, make Bolton look like a bunch of Lichtenstein gardeners on wednesday, by playing the champagne football all over again.

and no matter what the result, I won't resort to demanding to see someone burnt at the stake.
 
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